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Everyone think of important stuff that school does not teach you:
- Personal Finance
- Basic macroeconomics (essential to being an informed citizen)
- Understanding modern politics
- How to think
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
10-01-2008 09:16 AM
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Sunbourn
Proud crazy cat man
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Well they do, but it's in the form of sex-ed which has a lot of bad information.
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
Well they do, but it's in the form of sex-ed which has a lot of bad information.
...i was like 9 when i had sex ed... didnt know wtf he was talking about, was to busy laughing at the huge dick on the board he was referring too, lol.
JESUS SAVES... ON THE PRICE OF DETERGALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
there was always very little point in sex ed to me. it just got less informative as it went o.
Hidden stuff:
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
Stratovarius Wrote:Everyone think of important stuff that school does not teach you:
- Personal Finance
- Basic macroeconomics (essential to being an informed citizen)
- Understanding modern politics
- How to think
We have an elective on the first, don't know how good it is. We covered the second splendidly last year in Introduction to Social Sciences.
As for the last one-I'd freak out if schools taught that. Thinking is not something to be taught. Of course, they shouldn't suppress it either, but a class "thinking" would only turn into yet another brainwashing session.
Ya I have this small book called The Art of Thinking that is used in a few universities. And it's really great. However, even the author occasionally says some things that come off as somewhat brainwashy and I questioned some of the things he said. But hey, the rest of the book showed me how to think critically so that I could question what he was saying.
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
6moredetentions Wrote:skool dusnt teche u that if u thro an m80 in water and stand next to it u wil get wet....
School needs to teach you to an hero.
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying Possessing much knowledge is like having a thousand foot fishing line with a hook, but the fish is always an inch beyond the hook. - Zen saying
10-05-2008 04:22 AM
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thewake
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School teaches all these things, I'll explain what kinds of stuff in those subjects they teach you:
- Personal Finance: Pay taxes.
- Basic macroeconomics: Pay more taxes.
- Understanding modern politics: You got me on that one.
- How to think: Just don't do it.
10-05-2008 05:54 AM
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Superkamiguru
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-Love
-Respect(REAL respect)
-How To Save A Life
-Decent Morals
-Critical Thinking
-How To Run A Business
-Anything Worth Knowing
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2017 07:19 AM by Superkamiguru.)
I feel like having books like these in a library paid for by taxes would be just fine enough. Forcing people is dumb, having it available is better, presenting it as an option is best.
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