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Life in the fast lane
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Life in the fast lane

This is a forum dedicated to the discussion of the issue's of today...gay marriage, presidential elections, and of course government in its entirety.

And there is much discussion to be had, but what of those people behind the issue's. The people that start movements, the people who start revolutions, the people who start holocausts. I speak of course of the politicians.

Why do you think people become politicians, what are the qualities we look for (or should look for) in a politician, can we trust a politician?

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11-10-2008 04:02 PM
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I think that some people become politicians because the honestly want to help make a difference for the better in our world. In fact, I think that most people become politicians for that reason. But, they say that power corrupts, and I think that that's true. It's very easy to get sucked into the web of corruption spun by the not-so-good politicians, and very hard to stay out of that web.

One of my things, personally, is that I look at it and say if they want power, don't give it to them because it would be so easy for them to abuse it for their own gain. If they don't want power because they're afraid of screwing things up or something, they might be a better choice because you know they would try their hardest to do what's right. Of course, that sort of thinking doesn't get you anywhere in today's system.

I look for politicians who are very honest and have the same or a similar set of morals as me and who I think honestly are trying to change this country for good. I also like it if they don't subscribe totally to the Republican or Democratic views. I might have to get stuck with someone from one of those parties, but hopefully they're going to be willing to look at solutions outside of what their party says to do.

I hope that was vaguely coherent, lol.

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Quote:One of my things, personally, is that I look at it and say if they want power, don't give it to them because it would be so easy for them to abuse it for their own gain. If they don't want power because they're afraid of screwing things up or something, they might be a better choice because you know they would try their hardest to do what's right.
This is win. And would probably work pretty well except for those rare cases of people who want to have power and would actually not get corrupted by it.

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SoulRiser Wrote:
Quote:One of my things, personally, is that I look at it and say if they want power, don't give it to them because it would be so easy for them to abuse it for their own gain. If they don't want power because they're afraid of screwing things up or something, they might be a better choice because you know they would try their hardest to do what's right.
This is win. And would probably work pretty well except for those rare cases of people who want to have power and would actually not get corrupted by it.

i think im wording this quote wrong, but meh : the pepople wo handle power best, are the ones who have it thrust upon them. harry potter.

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As insightful as a Harry Potter quote can possibly be in the realm of politics. It does bring up another sort of intriguing question. Should people be able to choose to involve themselves in politics.

I mean to say, the man who wants to go out and change the world is doing something in his interest, because his movement is, in turn, a self-indulgence. Should this type of person be allowed into politics, if we were to remove the self-interest in politics would government even function?

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I think the problem is not that people have power, but they get caught up in "politics". Their original good intentions get shoved aside due to the silly games politicians play.

I don't really think power corrupts. Look at Jesus, or other such saints that had huge influence over the people. They never abused their power. They could have quite easily taken over the world, but they didn't.

I think it's all the politicians that are corrupting the government. All the old ones corrupt the new ones, creating a never-ending cycle.

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liq3 Wrote:I think it's all the politicians that are corrupting the government. All the old ones corrupt the new ones, creating a never-ending cycle.

I read a book on Native American politics. Horrible book, I can't recall the title. Yet astoundingly interesting. The tribe would work on a leadership system based on need. The most skilled warrior would take control of the tribe in time of war, but when it was time to farm, the most experienced farmer would be given power from that warrior....And it would move in that cycle of the leader that is necessary would command. (Of course this was not all tribes, just one, in which I can't remember either, my memory is utter shit)

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liq3 Wrote:I think it's all the politicians that are corrupting the government. All the old ones corrupt the new ones, creating a never-ending cycle.

I read a book on Native American politics. Horrible book, I can't recall the title. Yet astoundingly interesting. The tribe would work on a leadership system based on need. The most skilled warrior would take control of the tribe in time of war, but when it was time to farm, the most experienced farmer would be given power from that warrior....And it would move in that cycle of the leader that is necessary would command. (Of course this was not all tribes, just one, in which I can't remember either, my memory is utter shit)
Hrm, interesting. You know, maybe the government wouldn't be so corrupt if it was segregated? So the people who handle the economy have no power over the military, have a few people who do nothing but decide where tax payers money goes (military, argiculture, roads, schools etc etc). Right now we seem to have one person who has power over everything. Removing that position would probably destroy a lot of the corruption.

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Here in Serbia most people become politicians for power and money, they make promises they never fulfill, they build bridges they demolish later, and the worst part is most people believe them. There might be some people who become politicans because they really want to help someone, however they also become corrupt and become addicted to the power.
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It is not just Serbia I can assure you, power is a natural human craving. The United States government was once based on a system of checks and balances to assure that one man would not gain too much power. Politics is in itself a system where you network connections to gain and hold power. Which is of course indisputable. Let me pose this question, is a system that relies on one man checking the next able to function correctly if there is a friendship between the two parties in question. (political parties are a stupid idea *nods*)

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