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Milk2Go
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Propaganda
North Korea is covered in propaganda. Yet the citizens who live there beleive that it's not propaganda, and most love their Communist homeland. Many beleive that the world looks up to them and that they are loved by all countries.
Why should America be any different?
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Re: Propaganda
America isn't.
Recommended reading: 1984 by George Orwell
Veteran's Day today is a good example. I'm not saying disrespect the troops, and in general, I don't, but I find it disgusting how much we glorify military action and use it as an opportunity to continue brainwashing people into thinking mass killings are a necessity.
Also when we send aid to N. Korea, the citizens think it's a devotional offering to Kim Jong Il. Fucked up place.
To a mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders. - Chuang-tzu
The quieter you become, the more you can hear. - Baba Ram Dass
The whole moon and the entire sky are reflected in one dewdrop on the grass. - Dogen
Great Faith. Great Doubt. Great Effort. - The three qualities necessary for training. - Zen saying
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America is getting worse every day, but it's not as bad as North Korea. If someone leaves the US, their whole family isn't sent to a death camp. The government's control over the flow of information there is so complete, many citizen's are not aware that humans have landed on the moon. 
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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The sad thing is in my experience the average European wants to visit for a long time period/live in America, but it is not possibly everything they've hyped it up to be. We are assholes, misleading the world. "Come to America, discover fashion, fun and fame!" but don't tell them about the droughts, oppression of political expressionism, hurricanes or crap immigration policies.
Fuck McCain
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I believe propaganda and advertising really is the same sort of business. Propaganda makes a hell of alot more money though. When you advertise anything, do you say that its going to suck. No, no one would buy your product if you did. So they say red bull gives you wings, and voila, people can fly.
I guess the dirty secret about advertising is that it is completely effective, and in my belief a real part of human behavior.
Don't blame the advertising, blame the consumer.
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Vatman Wrote:I believe propaganda and advertising really is the same sort of business. Propaganda makes a hell of alot more money though. When you advertise anything, do you say that its going to suck. No, no one would buy your product if you did. So they say red bull gives you wings, and voila, people can fly.
I guess the dirty secret about advertising is that it is completely effective, and in my belief a real part of human behavior.
Don't blame the advertising, blame the consumer.
I feel propaganda is less socially acceptable to resist. Not buying a product is still considered more-or-less okay, but doubting the truths (aka all drop are burger flipping drug junkies)? Never! You must be insane.
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Vatman
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What about scientific propaganda?
The world is round, do you expect us to believe that? Honestly....
The sun revolves around the earth, honestly Copernicus....stop spreading your cultist propoganda.
People advertising their beliefs is a natural part of social culture. The fact is, most people need some sort of schooling right? I mean ok, fine if you want to argue that we would be better off without any sort of school than that is your prerogative. But for the most part saying that if you don't buy our product bad things will happen is just a normal advertising strategy. Its all about choosing what advertising you choose to believe...personally I like gieko commercials.
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Vatman Wrote:What about scientific propaganda?
The world is round, do you expect us to believe that? Honestly....
The sun revolves around the earth, honestly Copernicus....stop spreading your cultist propoganda.
Unlike propaganda, the roundness of the world is backed up with proof in any good upper level textbook.
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Fine would you have rather I used string theory?
Either way, the example still holds its validity.
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String theory is just that: a theory. We won't accept it until we find proof.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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Vatman Wrote:But for the most part saying that if you don't buy our product bad things will happen is just a normal advertising strategy.
It's also a logical fallacy. It falls under "appeal to fear".
Epic win book.
Personal Development for Smart People.
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Vatman
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Doesn't seem like a fallacy of logic here. All your water be dirties, drink clean bottled bottled water. Sounds to me like some good tasty logic....water.
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Vatman Wrote:Doesn't seem like a fallacy of logic here. All your water be dirties, drink clean bottled bottled water. Sounds to me like some good tasty logic....water.
Really? Strange, because Penn and Teller did a test in New York...turns out NYC tap water tastes better then bottled water. Amasing isn't it?
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Which is an example of...?
I am not saying tap water is bad, I am saying that propaganda is not just government....its also cookies and cream.
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So what if it's illogical? People still far for it. Get off your pedestal. But be careful,the drop down is pretty far.
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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Darthmat Wrote:So what if it's illogical? People still far for it. Get off your pedestal. But be careful,the drop down is pretty far.
A rhetorical question, followed by a Strawman, finished with an ad hominem.
Darthmat, do you EVER actually argue with people, or do you spend all your time trollin' and coming up with logical fallacies?
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I guess I'm just special. =D
But nearly as special as you, liq3. All you know how to do is memorize terms for logical fallacies, and point them out, whether the person is trying to prove a point or not. =D
I highly suggest Mobb Deep's albums The Infamous and Hell on Earth, if you have not listened to it yet.
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