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You're Young, so Auschwitz is "adults only"
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You're Young, so Auschwitz is "adults only"

This a article I wrote for the third issue of Some News, my 'zine.
It's about the blocking of one great site.
Quote:http://www.spectacle.org/695/ausch.html

The above link goes to An Auschwitz Alphabet, a online exhibit created in 1996 about a Holocaust death camp from the online magazine The Ethical Spectacle.

Well, that's if your computer doesn't have censorware on it.


You see, if you use any of the district's computers, you'll be stopped by SmartFilter, a censorware product made by Secure Computing. You'll be greeted by a little page saying the site was blocked.


Why?


For "Violence". 

Sure, it contains some content that can be called "disturbing", but that doesn't make it unsuitable. Anybody that goes to that site is more than likely doing it for research and for mourning, so what makes it "unsuitable" for a grade schooler to visit it? Just because it talks about violence does not make it violent. It does not advocate violence. It is used to EDUCATE people about Hitler's atrocities. 
And, if it's blocked as "violent", than why not stop teaching about the Holocaust? 

Another day, another time somebody throws common sense and cyber-freedom off a cliff. 


Not surprising though. Not surprising at all.

Since 1996, web blocking programs ("censorware") have been known to block sites with ideas they don't agree with.

If we deny access to a site like this, we are growing a new breed of ignorant youth who don't know as much about Hilter's evil deeds as much as others do. Children were executed at Nazi death camps, but we won't even allow children of now to learn about these horrors.
The world is bad. Very bad. But that doesn't mean we can't learn about it. We can't just shelter everyone. It's a huge disservice to do something like that.

If you want to see An Auschwitz Alphabet without being blocked, go to
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwi...ausch.html
You'll also find info on the censorship of AAA.

Sources:
http://www.spectacle.org

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/auschwi...index.html

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12-11-2008 08:02 AM
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Re: You're Young, so Auschwitz is "adults only"

Have you visited the official site of the Auschwitz memorial? I did a while back, and was surprised at a specific recommendation, not enough to post about it. However, this seems like a perfect time to do so:

It is not recommended that children under 14 visit the Memorial

Guess we're just not mature enough to handle seeing the place of atrocities against our peers (and many other innocent people).

Don't take life so seriously, it isn't permanent.
12-13-2008 04:31 AM
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Puchiko Wrote:It is not recommended that children under 14 visit the Memorial
That's just even worse.
Sick idiots.

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(12-14-2008 02:29 AM)returnal Wrote:  
Puchiko Wrote:It is not recommended that children under 14 visit the Memorial
That's just even worse.
Sick idiots.

*Fucktards.

Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.

Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.

There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?

Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.

Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?

Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.

Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman

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