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Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
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Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
The thread title limit won't let me post the title I was aiming for. It was going to say "Is the illegalization of propaganda against freedom of speech?"
Freedom of speech is defined as basically saying what you think whenever, anywhere. But propaganda is speech, so if all propaganda were illegal, would it be an invasion of freedom of speech rights?
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
yea but its not like they havnt sdone it before free speech has been limited
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
Lincoln did it during the Civil War, so if anyone else did it, it'd be fine in the general public. But yeah, it is an invasion of free speech.
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
Propaganda is simply an exercise of opinion. Naturally we are allowed to share our opinions...for example:
I believe they should not come out with a squeal to that ghastly remake of The Pink Panther. Though Steve Martin has some appeal in his own roundabout way. I believe the government should take a stance on his destroying of a cherished and classic franchise of movies. And I believe there should be posters made to stop this crime.
And if I got off topic, then so be it. *Patriotic music playing* This is a travesty of classical cinema comedy that I wont stand for.
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yea i agree steve martin sucks as pink panther
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
PINK PANTHER 2 FTW
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
The originals are better.
Anyway on the actual topic
YES it would be against freedom of speech to make propaganda illegal.
I have no clue what government would make propaganda illegal seeing that propaganda is the power house behind many governent run/supported programs and is a big tool in they're armory of shit used to motivate the public or mold the outcome of something to they're likeing.
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
It's not what you say, it's how you say it. So, the propaganda people can have their opinions, and they can spread them, but as soon as they start using manipulative methods to get the message accepted by more people, then it's not okay. And yes, this applies to most advertising as well.
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Re: Is propaganda exercising freedom of speech?
Propaganda is usually put out and run by the only people who can limit speech in the first place - the government. Therefore counter-propaganda may be an appropriate response.
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