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Alucard483 Wrote:Imgine this. We are all part of this site. Lets say that "X Member" stages mass bombings of schools killing hundreds of inocent people. He/She has done this independant of us and independant of our knowledge. This site comes under fire. We are all labeled murderers and terrorists. Even though the only people that did ANYTHING wrong would be "X Member."
Stupid analogy. It wasn't like some rogue fascist went off and started killing Jews while the rest of the Reichstag looked on in horror. You keep acting like most fascists were decent people and a few went bad. It's really the other way around.
In fact, a more accurate analogy would be if the vast majority of us went out and started bombing schools, and people still decided that we were good guys because a couple members spoke out against it.


The majority of the nazi people didn't go out killing jews, most of them were only trying to make a living with day jobs. that is why your reverse analogy would be incorrect.

I feel that the supposed "attrocities" that occured were a result of the National Socialist system

Those in power responded as they would because they have human nature, they are not evil because others would act similarily under the given circumstances.

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MorikoElven Wrote:Those Nazis are pretty cool guys, kill jews and doesn't afraid of anything.

No.

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Adolf Hitler was a Highschool dropout and he became dictator of the entire Country!

LOL Wut Now Pro-SSCHOOLERS!!!!

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Mystery Wrote:Adolf Hitler was a Highschool dropout and he became dictator of the entire Country!

LOL Wut Now Pro-SSCHOOLERS!!!!

If he can do it, so can you!

Actually it's pretty ironic, he dropped out, which should have automatically made him a failure by average logic, but he ended up taking over a great deal of land, causing the death of millions and being famous forever in the texts of time.

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Especially those that I thought might be an advantage to me later on as a painter

My father forbade me to entertain the idea of taking up Art as a proffesion, I went up a step further and Declared "I will not study anything Else!!"

Laugh Thus we have the Greatest "Painter" who Ever Lived! lol Uhoh

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If only they'd let him into that art school.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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I don't believe there is such a thing as evil. The Nazis, including the people at the top, wanted the best for themselves and the people closest to them. They seriously thought that all the other racial groups were working against them and had kept them down for a long time. Honestly, if they really thought that, no wonder they did what they did. It wasn't right, but getting in their mindset I can at least sympathize.

The Nazis actually had a good thing going for a while, if only they'd dropped their plans for total racial hegemony and allowed individuals to have some freedom I might have been able to support them a little bit.

We need to take a step back and rethink our portrait of the Nazis, because our propaganda masks the real reasons for what happened. Germany was desperate. They got fucked over, big time, at the end of WW1. 1930's came around, huge economic collapse, an unbearable war debt they still had to pay off, people starving, people becoming homeless. Their politicians were bumblefucking around and then suddenly comes along this Nazi party. They get voted into power based on their promises to turn things around and make Germany a country worth living in again. They stick to their promises. Germany becomes a fucking powerhouse of a country. Things have never been better. Yeah, if you're a Jew it sucks, but you're not a Jew. You're living high on the hog as compared to just a couple of years ago. Your country has become united, the people you think were holding you down have been kicked out, everything seems hunky-dory. Shit, can you blame the majority of Germans for liking the Nazi party?

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No, they were evil. They just didn't think they were.

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Kirby Wrote:No, they were evil. They just didn't think they were.

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I don't think so...

but I'm so very curious.

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HALCYON DREAMS Wrote:I don't believe there is such a thing as evil. The Nazis, including the people at the top, wanted the best for themselves and the people closest to them. They seriously thought that all the other racial groups were working against them and had kept them down for a long time. Honestly, if they really thought that, no wonder they did what they did. It wasn't right, but getting in their mindset I can at least sympathize.

The Nazis actually had a good thing going for a while, if only they'd dropped their plans for total racial hegemony and allowed individuals to have some freedom I might have been able to support them a little bit.

We need to take a step back and rethink our portrait of the Nazis, because our propaganda masks the real reasons for what happened. Germany was desperate. They got fucked over, big time, at the end of WW1. 1930's came around, huge economic collapse, an unbearable war debt they still had to pay off, people starving, people becoming homeless. Their politicians were bumblefucking around and then suddenly comes along this Nazi party. They get voted into power based on their promises to turn things around and make Germany a country worth living in again. They stick to their promises. Germany becomes a fucking powerhouse of a country. Things have never been better. Yeah, if you're a Jew it sucks, but you're not a Jew. You're living high on the hog as compared to just a couple of years ago. Your country has become united, the people you think were holding you down have been kicked out, everything seems hunky-dory. Shit, can you blame the majority of Germans for liking the Nazi party?
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We all understand why the German people elected the Nazis to rule over their country. That still doesn't excuse the things they did and it doesn't make fascism any less of an abomination.

I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:We all understand why the German people elected the Nazis to rule over their country. That still doesn't excuse the things they did and it doesn't make fascism any less of an abomination.
While I agree It still doesn't makes them evil. Since the concept of morality is a social construct depending on the social structure one lives in, so theres no commonly accepted universal "evil".

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My social construct says the Nazis were evil.

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Mystery Wrote:While I agree It still doesn't makes them evil. Since the concept of morality is a social construct depending on the social structure one lives in, so theres no commonly accepted universal "evil".

No, on the contrary, Good and Evil exist, (or rather good exists and evil is the absence of it).

People's belief that Good and Evil do not exist is the real "social construct".

What people think today does not make a difference on reality. What the Nazis did was evil, and even if they and everyone else on this filthy planet thought otherwise it would still be evil.

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Mystery Wrote:Adolf Hitler was a Highschool dropout and he became dictator of the entire Country!

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MorikoElven Wrote:I've been thinking, at school we've been learning a lot about the holocaust and everything, and all the horrible things, yet It's only focusing on the saddest stories and the Canadian's involvement in the war. So I want to hear, what you honestly think of Nazis.
When I hear Nazi I think BNP and how they treat asians and homosexuals.
After WW1 and after the introduction of the Treaty of Versailles, the Nazis after the start of Hitler taking over the party he played a VERY clever games of gently going to extremes; meaning he LEGALLY got power without the need of force. He attacked the Jews which was useful as they were a minority group 0.5%. He managed to get the army to even swear a oath to HIM.
As a utilitarian most of the jews served horrible pain 10/10, It was only around the world when his levels were went overboard. He would violate the majority of religions ethics on all religions even the communism theory. As I am an Atheist I have personal ethics which would be ALL violated!
Therefor Hitler was BAD.

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Ah yes, as an anarchist I have this knee-jerk reaction to scream that fascists are racist jew hating bastards, but on the other side I can see where Nazis come from, and understand the good they did for Germany. I see that many Nazis did commit evils that were in some cases neccesary to keep their own lives.

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Jewish people suck I consider them as bad as nazi's.

Read their holy texts and you'll find passages that call sex with gentiles bestiality. they're just as bigoted.

also I'd also like to note theres no such thing as a jewish "race".

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Mystery Wrote:Jewish people suck I consider them as bad as nazi's.

Read their holy texts and you'll find passages that call sex with gentiles bestiality. they're just as bigoted.

also I'd also like to note theres no such thing as a jewish "race".
omg. caen u buleeve it? i haet peuple for no gud reason too. liek this one tiem i realized Stalin wuz an atheist and i haeted them 4ever ! OMG!!!!!!! don't 4get the evolutionizts R also racists too, there atheists also. jewery suxorz too, i agrees.

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You should convert to Judaism if my post offended you..

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Joining the German Army or the Hitler Youth out of fear is one thing. But when they order you to push the button and gas a whole fake shower room full of emaciated women and children, and you do it, you cross the line between being a survivor and being a fucking coward. Would they kill you if you refuse? Probably. But sometimes that's what you have to do.

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92% of all Germans weren't even alive during WWII, yet people still think of Germany as "the Nazi country". Not referring to you guys, just the general public. And I'm not trying to justify what the Nazis did 65 years ago, either.

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Re: Nazis...seriously.

Rebelnerd Wrote:Joining the German Army or the Hitler Youth out of fear is one thing. But when they order you to push the button and gas a whole fake shower room full of emaciated women and children, and you do it, you cross the line between being a survivor and being a fucking coward. Would they kill you if you refuse? Probably. But sometimes that's what you have to do.
Ok, I see where you are coming from here. My train of thought is better them than me. I do not know them and if it saves my life to kill them, the so be it. Besides, with the propoganda and all the degrading them to nonhuman status would just make it easier to do so. I simply value my life I guess. However I do know that what I have done will haunt me for the rest of my life.

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