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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
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Oni-Chiisu Wrote:Use White, Blue, and Purple then. The whole Orange scheme is cool to me, but it probably came from being Soul's favorite colors or summat.
Dark but fiery.
I like the black, I just don't think red is a good color to add, due to the connection with Prussia.
So.... Put the eagle and R's in either: blue, yellow (not so good), orange (rare flag color, fades, but has been used in real revolutions), green (possible), or purple (not normal flag color, fades)
Let's see what L thinks about it too...
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TrueAnarchist Wrote:Sure, welcome, as an Anarchist, I welcome you, but stray away from 'youvebeenthunderstruck' I dont want you to get the wrong idea of this site
I hope u like memes!
If you don't mind me asking, what is the wrong idea?
There's no wrong idea, Youvebeenthunderstruck is one of the mods, he keeps people (including me) from turning the site into "total" chaos, He's a great guy once you know him.
Fire Elf Wrote:Mostly good, but I don't like that it's all just black-and-white. Maybe add a bit of red or orange?
Orange might be the best if we add a color...
Black, White, and Red were the colors of Prussia, so would it be appropriate or not to use the same color scheme in rebelling against the Prussian school system...???
I hope u like memes!
And LOTSA SPAGHETTI!
TrueAnarchist Wrote:
Liquid Wrote:
Fire Elf Wrote:Mostly good, but I don't like that it's all just black-and-white. Maybe add a bit of red or orange?
Orange might be the best if we add a color...
Black, White, and Red were the colors of Prussia, so would it be appropriate or not to use the same color scheme in rebelling against the Prussian school system...???
Sure, welcome, as an Anarchist, I welcome you, but stray away from 'youvebeenthunderstruck' I dont want you to get the wrong idea of this site
I hope u like memes!
Stop spamming. Oh, and you have the wrong idea of this site.
Fire Elf Wrote:Mostly good, but I don't like that it's all just black-and-white. Maybe add a bit of red or orange?
Orange might be the best if we add a color...
Black, White, and Red were the colors of Prussia, so would it be appropriate or not to use the same color scheme in rebelling against the Prussian school system...???
Allright then. We'll add on Orange then.
BTW, I didn't know what the colours of Prussia were. I just got the red/orange idea because we're called FIRE (at least that's where my vote goes), and, well, you figure out the rest.
So I just finished my own pic. It's just a guy throwing off the graduation robe thing in digust. Do you want me to color it and post it, or just leave it white and post it?
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So I just finished my own pic. It's just a guy throwing off the graduation robe thing in digust. Do you want me to color it and post it, or just leave it white and post it?
Oni-Chiisu Wrote:Use White, Blue, and Purple then. The whole Orange scheme is cool to me, but it probably came from being Soul's favorite colors or summat.
Dark but fiery.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
BTW Ima work on a new flag design, I'll post it in a little.
Even though I don't really like anything that's been put forth so far, I love all the effort because it gives ideas later and keeps the momentum going. It's all going to be a lot of crap in the beginning, but just keep doing anything and everything.
I'm not sure if this has already been covered but I have come up with a logo/design, all I read was the first page with the flag which was a pretty good but detailed design. What I have in mind is F.E.R (or whatever our acronym will be) over a red star. We can keep the flag this is Just something simple and easy for stenciling etc...
Also I'll post an image in just a little bit. I'm on mah iPod at the moment and it won't let me upload pics.
Mr.Radiation Wrote:I'm not sure if this has already been covered but I have come up with a logo/design, all I read was the first page with the flag which was a pretty good but detailed design. What I have in mind is F.E.R (or whatever our acronym will be) over a red star. We can keep the flag this is Just something simple and easy for stenciling etc...
Also I'll post an image in just a little bit. I'm on mah iPod at the moment and it won't let me upload pics.
Anyway tell me what you think.
And as we all know, no-one used a red star as their symbol before. Red stars are a well-known symbol of communism, and we already decided we're not siding with any political ideology.
I could always change the color. The only reason it was red was because that was the only colored sharpie I had at the time, it looked good so I kept it forgeting it's ties to politics.
I will still try to think of improved designs but how dose a green star sound?
well what would the star stand for is more relavant. same with L's eagle and oni's person. what do they stand for. we something that when someone see's it they know what it stands for. maybe not right away but after we get word out they should know.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
well they don't mean anything. Not yet atleast, but once word gets out and people see a green star or whatever have you may they think "oh green Star=education revolution"
yea but i mean like, the american flag when you see it you go its the american flag duh. but it has symbolism in it the blue, red, and white. also the stars. they all have a meaning its just not its america.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
who gives a shit about a meaning. Can you tell me the meaning of the colors on the flag without looking it up? No.
who the fuck could other than mabye your grandpa.
stars= states
red= blood we lost fighting for it
white= liberty and purity
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
I knew the stars stood for the states and the read had somthing to do with blood but other than that I was clueless.
Anyway the point is I don't really think we need a meaning for our symbol just somthing that people will connect the revolution to and think "revolution=good"
Mr.Radiation Wrote:who gives a shit about a meaning. Can you tell me the meaning of the colors on the flag without looking it up? No.
who the fuck could other than mabye your grandpa.
That's a limiting way to look at it. Symbolism is used all the time since man started utilizing language. Symbols can be a powerful way to communicate ideas, and yes, people will know what they mean through the messages you present to them. If nothing else, they'll begin to associate symbols with ideas and people.
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stars= states
red= blood we lost fighting for it
white= liberty and purity
Officially, but actually they just jacked the design from the East India Company.
But they made it so only a EIC flags with the union jack (not a St. George's) and with 13 stripes. (The EIC flag could have 9-13 stripes, and the canton could be either St. George's or the union jack)
But most EIC flags looked like this:
Obviously they didn't like their flag getting stolen. But we know the rest of the story from the US end, and the EIC started to avoid using the union jack on the canton.
Fire Elf Wrote:
Liquid Wrote:
Fire Elf Wrote:Mostly good, but I don't like that it's all just black-and-white. Maybe add a bit of red or orange?
Orange might be the best if we add a color...
Black, White, and Red were the colors of Prussia, so would it be appropriate or not to use the same color scheme in rebelling against the Prussian school system...???
Allright then. We'll add on Orange then.
BTW, I didn't know what the colours of Prussia were. I just got the red/orange idea because we're called FIRE (at least that's where my vote goes), and, well, you figure out the rest.
The colors of the Teutonic Knights were white and black, their leader pulled a coup and took personal control of most of their territory and called himself a king, creating the Kingdom of Prussia. Prussia's enemy was Austria, Austria's flag was yellow and black. Yellow and black flags vs white and black flags was annoying on the battlefield so Prussia added red to represent the medieval Hanseatic League.
The colors of the Prussian Empire ("2nd Reich") are important to the history of flags, Hitler wanted to use the same colors for the flag of the "3rd Reich". Nowadays a couple countries that hate Israel use an upside-down Prussian flag, just with different country symbols in the middle. (The Egyptian revolutionaries used it and it spread from there)
Gayarou Wrote:Symbols can be a powerful way to communicate ideas, and yes, people will know what they mean through the messages you present to them. If nothing else, they'll begin to associate symbols with ideas and people.
Mr.Radiation Wrote:Anyway the point is I don't really think we need a meaning for our symbol just something that people will connect the revolution to and think "revolution=good"
So... we just need a good looking symbol, one that's easily recognizable; so that whenever they see it, they see us.
well, it should have some meaning. We'll look like idiots if we go around waving that symbol on a sign and can't answer someone who asks what it is. It shouldn't be a problem though, no matter what we come up with we can definitely find some obscure connection to youth rights.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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eagles are free they can fly where ever they want. Us youth want that to.
There's the symbolism for that.
That is quite a win flag I might add, you did a good job