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The purpose of the main site (as stated on the intro page) is:
Quote:This is a support site for students who can't stand being forced to go to school. We are not telling you to drop out, rebel or do anything in particular. What you do is your decision and yours alone, we can just provide support and information for whatever choice you may make. What works for one person won't necessarily work for everyone. The point is: the choice is yours to make. And if, for whatever reason, other people refuse to let you make that choice, you will always find someone here willing to listen to you.

That's where the forums come in. The purpose of the forums is to be a refuge of sorts, where you can come in and be accepted for who you are, and find people who understand you, or at the very least are willing to listen.

The secondary purpose of the forums is to plan and do things to improve the school systems, and/or educate people about alternatives.
EDIT: Reform-related stuff is now happening at EFO. So go there. Smile

Other than that, pretty much anything goes here, as long as it doesn't interfere with the purpose of the forums in any way.

EDIT: Actually, this thread is an even better explanation of what this forum stands for.

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BTW, it says my 'level' is 'defiant', how do I change that? Please help?

Also, to answer your question, I am homeschooled now. Well I mean I was but not anymore, I'm out of that now. Kids at my school back then were jumping up and down like I have reached my salvation or something when I told them, but I'm more humble than that, heh. Hope I can get to be a doctor after 1 EDIT: 4 (How did I miss that key?) years of college. Plus like 4 years of med school.

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Dear Tumblrites: Despite your wrongly self-diagnosed PTSD, no line of scientific evidence suggests people can be triggered over the internet. Triggering works through the senses (i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes through real time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it's ACTUALLY HAPPENING in your ACTUAL life, you CANNOT be triggered. The only exception to this is if you have a seizure, but then again, that's triggered by epilepsy (i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights) NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having a flashback. When you remember, you think; when you flashback, you feel.

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Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself." The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes." The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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Quote:what are the schools like in south africa?
I haven't been inside one for about 9 years, so any information I have may be horribly outdated. Other than that, pretty similar to UK/Australia as far as I can tell.

Quote:BTW: it says my 'level' is 'defiant', how do I change That? plz help?
It changes automatically based on your post count. You can get a list of the levels here.

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slightly off-topic: does the link on the right hand side link to this?

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random_name Wrote:slightly off-topic: does the link on the right hand side link to this?
Yes, it does.

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ok, thanks

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Technically it's on the left side, but meh, that's just semantics. Razz

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SoulRiser Wrote:Technically it's on the left side, but meh, that's just semantics. Razz
There's one on both sides for me.

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its on both sides =]

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I love this place. Thankyou to whoever opened it. School truly sucks. Particularly the system of the place I hail from - India. It's education system is like a machine that keeps churning out people with high degrees stamped on their heads, but not real intellect value. Each time I enter those ghastly gates I feel something die within me None

It's probably the zeal to look beyond that looming building.
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I agree 100%. I mean if school is (supposedly) a system,
all the parts ( students, teachers, parents, cirriculum)
are to work in conjunction ( in other words) along side each
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SS, we've got a LOT of work ahead of us.
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LOL, check the time stamps before you post.

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Fire Elf Wrote:LOL, check the time stamps before you post.

This happens quite a bit, I don't think it's that funny now.

Also, his post was actually decent.

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

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An lol isn't much of a laugh really.

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I don't believe in mission statements. It reminds me of stupid companies using buzzwords and school trying to make it look like they have a purpose.
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TrueAnarchist Wrote:I am homeschooled now...I have reached my salvation...
Lol... in one year of college he can become a doctor... just lol.

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The Desert Fox Wrote:
TrueAnarchist Wrote:I am homeschooled now...I have reached my salvation...
Lol... in one year of college he can become a doctor... just lol.

:/

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.

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Loxor Wrote:
Fire Elf Wrote:LOL, check the time stamps before you post.

This happens quite a bit, I don't think it's that funny now.

Also, her post was actually decent.
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Yeah, don't blame be for some mistake like that.

Anything that ever happened or will... one condition, it has to be amazing.

I gave her wings but she don't wanna fly no more.

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If that's your mission statement, you are failing completely. Not only have l found members who have been on this site since years back telling me that the point of this site isn't to do what your mission statement says, but sometimes, they seemingly tend to promote conformity, the thing they're fighting against.

One person told me that this site is absolutely not trying to create a school reform when you just said, "The secondary purpose of the forums is to plan and do things to improve the school systems, and/or educate people about alternatives. " Which is pretty much what a reform is.

This site is a joke.
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There's this free speech thing, people can say whatever they want, and whatever they say is their opinion and not the official 'stance' of the site or whatever. And yes, we do have some clique-ish behaviour here. You'll find that on pretty much every forum. The bitching is supposed to be contained in the Frag Arena forum (you need to join a group to have access to it), but not everyone takes that seriously. I need to do some cleaning up it seems...

Most of the reform-related stuff got moved to EFO... http://www.edfreedom.org/

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(05-13-2012 09:27 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  There's this free speech thing, people can say whatever they want, and whatever they say is their opinion and not the official 'stance' of the site or whatever. And yes, we do have some clique-ish behaviour here. You'll find that on pretty much every forum. The bitching is supposed to be contained in the Frag Arena forum (you need to join a group to have access to it), but not everyone takes that seriously. I need to do some cleaning up it seems...

Most of the reform-related stuff got moved to EFO... http://www.edfreedom.org/
l'm going to be really blatant. Your site is full of shit. Have you heard of NATO? That stands for No Action, Talk Only. Your action is totally opposite to your descriptions of things. You talk big - promise big but your action is compromising and little.

Your mission statement is highly exaggerated. l know it give people a false sense of hope, but the truth is better than a highly fictitious lie that deludes people. l thought this site at least had morals, it doesn't even have that.
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I would like to apologize on behalf of everyone here for not living up to your ideals of radical activism that you pulled out your ass
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(05-13-2012 10:31 AM)BaronVonStrangle Wrote:  I would like to apologize on behalf of everyone here for not living up to your ideals of radical activism that you pulled out your ass
l'll forgive you if you're more blatant about it, and don't try to feed everyone shit about how this site is trying to accomplish such Utopian sort of things. Also, give me specifics on how to make sites that make money. Like the best way to do this.
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lol Mission statements...
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(05-13-2012 10:41 AM)Endeavourer Wrote:  
(05-13-2012 10:31 AM)BaronVonStrangle Wrote:  I would like to apologize on behalf of everyone here for not living up to your ideals of radical activism that you pulled out your ass
and don't try to feed everyone shit about how this site is trying to accomplish such Utopian sort of things
Yeah except we don't though. The very first thing you goddamn see
Quote:We are not telling you to drop out, rebel or do anything in particular. What you do is your decision and yours alone, we can just provide support and information for whatever choice you may make.
Any guides for taking over your school and renaming it Twelvia are there for your own use

I also like how you're the ONLY PERSON EVER to be that dissapointed about the nature of these forums that you'd join just to write xbox huge posts and generally be a pretentious fuck

then again you're probably shotgunfart though so this is pretty much a waste of time
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Quote:I would like to apologize on behalf of everyone here for not living up to your ideals of radical activism that you pulled out your ass
Laugh

Quote:l'm going to be really blatant. Your site is full of shit. Have you heard of NATO? That stands for No Action, Talk Only. Your action is totally opposite to your descriptions of things. You talk big - promise big but your action is compromising and little.
What promise? Where? I don't remember promising anything.

Quote:Your mission statement is highly exaggerated. l know it give people a false sense of hope, but the truth is better than a highly fictitious lie that deludes people. l thought this site at least had morals, it doesn't even have that.
How does a site have morals? A site isn't even conscious.

Notice how http://www.school-survival.net and forums.school-survival.net are on seperate subdomains? It's because they're seperate. You're taking all the people here and all their posts and using it to judge the entire site and everything it stands for. You, sir, are doing it wrong.

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RE: Mission Statement

Quote:Your mission statement is highly exaggerated. l know it give people a false sense of hope, but the truth is better than a highly fictitious lie that deludes people. l thought this site at least had morals, it doesn't even have that.
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RE: Mission Statement

(05-14-2012 03:32 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  
Quote:I would like to apologize on behalf of everyone here for not living up to your ideals of radical activism that you pulled out your ass
Laugh

Quote:l'm going to be really blatant. Your site is full of shit. Have you heard of NATO? That stands for No Action, Talk Only. Your action is totally opposite to your descriptions of things. You talk big - promise big but your action is compromising and little.
What promise? Where? I don't remember promising anything.

Quote:Your mission statement is highly exaggerated. l know it give people a false sense of hope, but the truth is better than a highly fictitious lie that deludes people. l thought this site at least had morals, it doesn't even have that.
How does a site have morals? A site isn't even conscious.

Notice how http://www.school-survival.net and forums.school-survival.net are on seperate subdomains? It's because they're seperate. You're taking all the people here and all their posts and using it to judge the entire site and everything it stands for. You, sir, are doing it wrong.

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