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Here we are, NYRA, trying to make some kind of difference for young people. Youth are treated like shit in our society, and nobody cares. Hell, they want it to happen. They want it to keep happening and to a greater extent.
I know anyone who is reading this already agrees, but screw it, I’m saying it anyway. YOU are the problem! YOU are destroying the world!
Not my pro-youth friends. I mean everyone else. Every one of you who believes behavior modification facilities are great places to rehabilitate bad kids. Every one of you who supports random drug tests in schools. Every one of you who thinks kids need school uniforms and curfews to keep them safe and to keep them out of causing trouble. Every one of you who sneers at an innocent group of teenagers just chilling outside a movie theatre, fearing they’ll steal your wallet. Every one of you believes teenagers should be alienated from their friends and be searched by their parents regularly. Every one of you who believes teenagers are not entitled to privacy or free speech rights. Every one of you trying to penalize good parents who allow their kids a little wine with dinner. Every one of you screaming for the driving age to be raised because you believe the fucking junk science spewing out of shrill public health groups. Every one of you finding ways to deny housing and jobs to young adults. Every one of you supporting parental controls on your electronic devices. Every one of you believing parents have sovereignty over their children’s bodies and minds. Every one of you who refuse to see any good in a young person and are interested only in the bad, the dangerous, and the expensive.
All of you need to get the hell out of my country. Now! You are fucking up the next generation! Yes, you are. You are not helping anyone. You are merely sacrificing your children’s futures to feed your fucked up prejudices. You tell them they don’t matter and deny them rights because, oh, God forbid someone younger than you might have a fucking brain!
You hit them. You force religions on them they don’t want. You force them to eat food they hate. You force them to wear only what you want them to wear. You expect them not to be themselves but to be good representatives of you. You want them to do you bidding. You wanted children not to enjoy and nurture, but to be your fucking obedient slaves.
I’m sick of it! I’m sick of this fucking shit! You are all vile, vile pathetic excuses for even primates, let alone humans! You don’t want to nurture! You want to keep them trapped and barely alive until such a time you can legally kick them out the door! You don’t care! You’re fucking selfish pricks, every single one of you!
There I was last Wednesday evening in a DC council hearing thing. My beloved friend and NYRA executive director Alex sat up at that witness table giving a wonderful, sensible spiel on why barring teens from night clubs will NOT stop violence, that the violence is the issue, not whether teens are there or not. The issue in a nutshell, anyway. But no. He might as well have been talking to a wall in his bedroom. Council was more interested in the sobbing parents of the dead girl wishing their daughter had been arrested (for having done nothing wrong!) than dead. Great. She gets shot by some asshole, and you’re blaming her for being in the way of a stray bullet. Oh, nice. While we’re at it, on September 11th, it was not the terrorists’ fault. All those 3,000 people shouldn’t have legally been allowed in the World Trade Center. It’s their fault they were murdered.
It’s clear the issue isn’t violence. That’s just a cute cover story. They just know the public is too fucking stupid to not equate teens with violence, so they’ll ban the teens from the clubs and act like all the bad stuff is taken care of. Shit, you know the news outlets will cooperate. I’ll have to listen to my brainwashed grandmother downstairs nodding along as they announce the “reduced” crime stats (slanted, of course) since the ban went into effect (okay, it hasn’t yet, but I’m not feeling hopeful at the moment). You’ve got a public already ingrained with the idea that everyone under 21 is a fucking criminal, so you’ll just roll with it to get more votes from idiot old people. Yes, I know that was ageist, but I know that’s who you’re going after.
And to hear this shit from the young people themselves, too. That so many of them really think they are incompetent. They’ve been so beaten down over the years that they’ve learned to take it. Adults just shit on them all the time, and they learn to say “Shit on me some more! It’s for my own good!” Only to grow up and shit all over their own children in greater numbers. Precious few stray from that to join our side. And we are ridiculed for it. Families think we’re wasting our lives and that it’s all a joke. Teachers think youth have too many rights as it is. You’d think someone who teaches just might know the difference between rights and being property! Gaahhh!!!
I’ve so had it. You’re all so fucking selfish and stupid. I try to be nice about it. I try to be civil. But I just can’t take it. You’re all so scared of your own goddamn shadows, pretty much. You’re so afraid of the next generation. You think idiot news casters know more about your own kids than you do. You think teens cause all kinds of violent crimes. You think they’d all be smoking crack if you didn’t lock them in their rooms and bar their windows. You think they’d do nothing but shoplift if you allowed them into your non-alcohol-serving store.
In the past few years I’ve been active with the youth rights movement, I’ve heard a lot of horror stories. I’ve heard the accounts in the behavior modification camps, where kids are beaten and killed for fun and profit (and I’m not even fucking kidding!). I’ve heard abusive family after abusive family, where parents are shoving their daughters into psych wards against their will, shoving pills down their throats, even beating and molesting them, knowing the girls can’t do a damn fucking thing about it because the law is on the parents’ side. After all, parents are always right and teens are always wrong.
You’re all so disgusting. Just thinking about any of you right now makes me want to shove your goddamn heads through a wall. You don’t get it. You refuse to get it. You don’t see kids as people. You see them as burdens. You see them as burdens practically since their conception. You don’t enjoy them. You put up with them and make sure they know you’re not happy with them.
Well, shut the fucking hell up, you goddamn hateful pieces of shit! I hate all of you. I hate dealing with you. I hate talking to you. I just know some disgusting slur will come out of your mouth eventually, at which point I walk away. You’re not worth the dried up dog shit out in my backyard. You’re destroying the world your children and grandchildren are to inherit, and you don’t care. You’ll merely try to blame them. You take no fucking responsibility for it, unless you were wishing you were harder on them. You refuse to see it any other way. For that, you deserve nothing less than to be sodomized by a burning rusty spike and skinned alive with dull scalpels. Go to hell, fuckwads.
Unfortunately none of this is incorrect. Not all of it is completely true, but that's beside the point. Now that I think of it, Ima go check out the NYRA.
02-28-2009 06:52 PM
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Once I was at Wal-Mart, and two employees (50 years old hags) were staring me down at the self-checkout line, like they were expecting me to steal something, like they can't trust us.
I just wanted to yell "Why the hell are you looking at me? Why don't you watch that guy in ninja outfit over there?" <-- (lulz gotta love ninjas )
Ageist bastards
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
Look, everyone bumps from time to time. I really don't see why you need to call me out in front of everyone to expose the tiniest flaws WHICH DON'T EVEN HAPPEN ALL THAT OFTEN. There have been threads like this which people have randomly said things less contributing than what I said. Look, I'm trying to say is: Let it go. Just because I didn't make a HUGE contribution to the thread doesn't mean it's the only type of post I make.
Hidden stuff:
(11-27-2011 01:00 PM)psychopath Wrote:
(11-27-2011 10:52 AM)Efs Wrote: Our Army is more professional than Amerika.
Except ours isn't allowed to have guns
CrayolaColours Wrote:That post owned. TDF wins post of the year.
Faby Wrote:
krissy Wrote:dessert fox
Mmm, flambéed vulpine.
"There is no enemy, there is no victory, only boys who lost their lives in the sand."
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Sorry for bumping an old thread, but, seeing as I'm the author of this rant, I figured I should personally thank you all for the praise! Greatly appreciated.
That rant was pure awesomeness! Also, I have an awesome old friend (he's 80) who actually agrees with this rant. It's nice to see an elder who isn't ageist. He would love this rant and always tells me that the problem his generation makes is forcing their prejudices onto us. He likes the youth; he sees us as less racist, less sexist, and less homophobic than his generation and doesn't like a lot of the conservative restrictions.
Here we are, NYRA, trying to make some kind of difference for young people. Youth are treated like shit in our society, and nobody cares. Hell, they want it to happen. They want it to keep happening and to a greater extent.
I know anyone who is reading this already agrees, but screw it, I’m saying it anyway. YOU are the problem! YOU are destroying the world!
Not my pro-youth friends. I mean everyone else. Every one of you who believes behavior modification facilities are great places to rehabilitate bad kids. Every one of you who supports random drug tests in schools. Every one of you who thinks kids need school uniforms and curfews to keep them safe and to keep them out of causing trouble. Every one of you who sneers at an innocent group of teenagers just chilling outside a movie theatre, fearing they’ll steal your wallet. Every one of you believes teenagers should be alienated from their friends and be searched by their parents regularly. Every one of you who believes teenagers are not entitled to privacy or free speech rights. Every one of you trying to penalize good parents who allow their kids a little wine with dinner. Every one of you screaming for the driving age to be raised because you believe the fucking junk science spewing out of shrill public health groups. Every one of you finding ways to deny housing and jobs to young adults. Every one of you supporting parental controls on your electronic devices. Every one of you believing parents have sovereignty over their children’s bodies and minds. Every one of you who refuse to see any good in a young person and are interested only in the bad, the dangerous, and the expensive.
All of you need to get the hell out of my country. Now! You are fucking up the next generation! Yes, you are. You are not helping anyone. You are merely sacrificing your children’s futures to feed your fucked up prejudices. You tell them they don’t matter and deny them rights because, oh, God forbid someone younger than you might have a fucking brain!
You hit them. You force religions on them they don’t want. You force them to eat food they hate. You force them to wear only what you want them to wear. You expect them not to be themselves but to be good representatives of you. You want them to do you bidding. You wanted children not to enjoy and nurture, but to be your fucking obedient slaves.
I’m sick of it! I’m sick of this fucking shit! You are all vile, vile pathetic excuses for even primates, let alone humans! You don’t want to nurture! You want to keep them trapped and barely alive until such a time you can legally kick them out the door! You don’t care! You’re fucking selfish pricks, every single one of you!
There I was last Wednesday evening in a DC council hearing thing. My beloved friend and NYRA executive director Alex sat up at that witness table giving a wonderful, sensible spiel on why barring teens from night clubs will NOT stop violence, that the violence is the issue, not whether teens are there or not. The issue in a nutshell, anyway. But no. He might as well have been talking to a wall in his bedroom. Council was more interested in the sobbing parents of the dead girl wishing their daughter had been arrested (for having done nothing wrong!) than dead. Great. She gets shot by some asshole, and you’re blaming her for being in the way of a stray bullet. Oh, nice. While we’re at it, on September 11th, it was not the terrorists’ fault. All those 3,000 people shouldn’t have legally been allowed in the World Trade Center. It’s their fault they were murdered.
It’s clear the issue isn’t violence. That’s just a cute cover story. They just know the public is too fucking stupid to not equate teens with violence, so they’ll ban the teens from the clubs and act like all the bad stuff is taken care of. Shit, you know the news outlets will cooperate. I’ll have to listen to my brainwashed grandmother downstairs nodding along as they announce the “reduced” crime stats (slanted, of course) since the ban went into effect (okay, it hasn’t yet, but I’m not feeling hopeful at the moment). You’ve got a public already ingrained with the idea that everyone under 21 is a fucking criminal, so you’ll just roll with it to get more votes from idiot old people. Yes, I know that was ageist, but I know that’s who you’re going after.
And to hear this shit from the young people themselves, too. That so many of them really think they are incompetent. They’ve been so beaten down over the years that they’ve learned to take it. Adults just shit on them all the time, and they learn to say “Shit on me some more! It’s for my own good!” Only to grow up and shit all over their own children in greater numbers. Precious few stray from that to join our side. And we are ridiculed for it. Families think we’re wasting our lives and that it’s all a joke. Teachers think youth have too many rights as it is. You’d think someone who teaches just might know the difference between rights and being property! Gaahhh!!!
I’ve so had it. You’re all so fucking selfish and stupid. I try to be nice about it. I try to be civil. But I just can’t take it. You’re all so scared of your own goddamn shadows, pretty much. You’re so afraid of the next generation. You think idiot news casters know more about your own kids than you do. You think teens cause all kinds of violent crimes. You think they’d all be smoking crack if you didn’t lock them in their rooms and bar their windows. You think they’d do nothing but shoplift if you allowed them into your non-alcohol-serving store.
In the past few years I’ve been active with the youth rights movement, I’ve heard a lot of horror stories. I’ve heard the accounts in the behavior modification camps, where kids are beaten and killed for fun and profit (and I’m not even fucking kidding!). I’ve heard abusive family after abusive family, where parents are shoving their daughters into psych wards against their will, shoving pills down their throats, even beating and molesting them, knowing the girls can’t do a damn fucking thing about it because the law is on the parents’ side. After all, parents are always right and teens are always wrong.
You’re all so disgusting. Just thinking about any of you right now makes me want to shove your goddamn heads through a wall. You don’t get it. You refuse to get it. You don’t see kids as people. You see them as burdens. You see them as burdens practically since their conception. You don’t enjoy them. You put up with them and make sure they know you’re not happy with them.
Well, shut the fucking hell up, you goddamn hateful pieces of shit! I hate all of you. I hate dealing with you. I hate talking to you. I just know some disgusting slur will come out of your mouth eventually, at which point I walk away. You’re not worth the dried up dog shit out in my backyard. You’re destroying the world your children and grandchildren are to inherit, and you don’t care. You’ll merely try to blame them. You take no fucking responsibility for it, unless you were wishing you were harder on them. You refuse to see it any other way. For that, you deserve nothing less than to be sodomized by a burning rusty spike and skinned alive with dull scalpels. Go to hell, fuckwads.
I want to find the person who wrote this. I want to shake his hand. This is exactly why my generation is so fucked up.
03-23-2011 01:14 AM
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I'm sorry, the message can be as true and valid and amazing as the author had intended it to be, but frothing at the mouth and tossing insults is not the way to draw adults' attention.
This shit belongs in a journal, not in the open internet where people can read it and then claim that, oh, how should youngsters be able to drive and drink if they can't even express themselves civilly?
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
~~
Good fortune follows upon disaster;
Disaster lurks within good fortune;
Who can say how things will end?
Perhaps there is no end.
I'm sorry, the message can be as true and valid and amazing as the author had intended it to be, but frothing at the mouth and tossing insults is not the way to draw adults' attention.
This shit belongs in a journal, not in the open internet where people can read it and then claim that, oh, how should youngsters be able to drive and drink if they can't even express themselves civilly?
The OP is quoting a rant written by a near-thirty-year-old.
Carla Franklin has never denied that on the afternoon of the third of August 2006 she raped and killed sixteen children celebrating their friend's fifth birthday and forced their parents to share a dinner of their remains.
If a teacher you don't know tries to bust you for something, just tell them "Jsem výměnný student, nemluvím anglicky. Tak jdi do prdele ty posranej hajzle, tvoje matka je kurva!", then send me money.
Faby Wrote:The OP sucks.
I'm sorry, the message can be as true and valid and amazing as the author had intended it to be, but frothing at the mouth and tossing insults is not the way to draw adults' attention.
This shit belongs in a journal, not in the open internet where people can read it and then claim that, oh, how should youngsters be able to drive and drink if they can't even express themselves civilly?
*BUZZER* Incorrect! First, as was just pointed out, the OP was quoting something written by an adult, not by a kid. Why did you assume it was written by a kid anyway? Hmmm... Second, the first link to it (snipeme.com) is my website where I hosted this rant because I believe in every word of it. I'm turning 33 in a few months, btw. Third, I'll refer you to a rant of my own:
Faby Wrote:The OP sucks.
I'm sorry, the message can be as true and valid and amazing as the author had intended it to be, but frothing at the mouth and tossing insults is not the way to draw adults' attention.
This shit belongs in a journal, not in the open internet where people can read it and then claim that, oh, how should youngsters be able to drive and drink if they can't even express themselves civilly?
*BUZZER* Incorrect! First, as was just pointed out, the OP was quoting something written by an adult, not by a kid. Why did you assume it was written by a kid anyway? Hmmm... Second, the first link to it (snipeme.com) is my website where I hosted this rant because I believe in every word of it. I'm turning 33 in a few months, btw. Third, I'll refer you to a rant of my own:
Faby Wrote:The OP sucks.
I'm sorry, the message can be as true and valid and amazing as the author had intended it to be, but frothing at the mouth and tossing insults is not the way to draw adults' attention.
This shit belongs in a journal, not in the open internet where people can read it and then claim that, oh, how should youngsters be able to drive and drink if they can't even express themselves civilly?
*BUZZER* Incorrect! First, as was just pointed out, the OP was quoting something written by an adult, not by a kid. Why did you assume it was written by a kid anyway? Hmmm... Second, the first link to it (snipeme.com) is my website where I hosted this rant because I believe in every word of it. I'm turning 33 in a few months, btw. Third, I'll refer you to a rant of my own: