Love

[SoulRiser]

Love

Discussions about love.

Unconditional Love
I don't believe in it, I never have, but I do want to, I always want to. I've been offered it, and I never know what the hell to do with such an offer. My past experience has been that those who offer it are speaking from that first flush of eager passion, that madness that compels you to give, that initial glow that opens you like a flower, but love always comes with conditions. Let us dig a little deeper and see if we can hit upon the rocks of eternal truth. Unconditional love is not possible because love is selfish...

Feeling compassion toward your enemies...
The definition of compassion is: wanting others to be free from suffering. So compassion is the definition of the highest scope of motivation. It is said that to generate genuine compassion, one needs to realise that oneself is suffering, that an end to suffering is possible, and that other beings similarly want to be free from suffering. Someone asked the following question to His Holiness the Dalai Lama:  "How does a person or group of people compassionately and yet straightforwardly confront another person or group of people who have committed crimes of genocide against them?"

Sex vs Dating/Marriage
My question is: can two people maintain a purely sexual relationship, where they are not friends at all? Would you consider that acceptable or superficial and wrong? Why?

Love and dependency
When you love someone enough, I think it's natural to be somewhat dependent on them. You become accustomed to the friendship/entertainment/support they give you, and when that friendship is missing for too long, you feel down.

love
i'm tired of people trying to define,love or say what it is.
since i think only you can know what love is .
like when some asks you if they are in love they should know them selves,and if someone says your not in love how do they know.
and i think everyone feels love in a slightly different way than someone else or rather they perceive it differently then someone else.

true love
what's ur definition of true love?

Polyamory
First, a definition: Polyamory (from poly=multiple + amor=love) is the desire, practice, or acceptance of having more than one loving, intimate relationship at a time with the full knowledge and consent of everyone involved. ...
Literally, "many loves". A generic term for non-monogamy, with a heavy emphasis on honesty and responsibility. (2)
Both ripped from Google. Now, what are your opinions on it?

What is love not?
Is love what the government tells us to do, die for the love of your country?
Or love as religion , abandon sex for the love of God?
Or sexual pleasure?
Can you define what love is without the prejudice of your conditioned mind, can you clear up this confusion that society has brought you?

[Sunbourn]

No such thing as unconditional love. At least not in my eyes. There's always actions somebody can take that will make me just not want to be around the person anymore, even turning what I once called love in to pure hatred. Love is nothing more than a strong emotional connection that has seemingly no place in logic.

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

Quote:that has seemingly no place in logic.

Uh yes it does. It keeps people alive. You love someone you want to protect them. The longer they live the more chance there will be offspring. It is logical. Just not how it plays out all the time lol Though I agree with you about unconditional love for the most part. Love can be very powerful though.

[Miller0700]

So what does Unconditional Love really mean? Cause when people try to explain it to me, it sounds a whole lot like being courteous instead.

[SoulRiser]

It's basically like... you love someone, and you love 'em no matter what, no matter how they change or what they do, you still love them the same. Like, it's not dependant on anything they do/say/are/look like/whatever. It's just there... for no apparent reason. Which of course makes no logical sense, I mean, there has to be a reason, right? ... that's where it starts to mess with my brain.

[Sunbourn]

(10-27-2011 04:50 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  

Quote:that has seemingly no place in logic.

Uh yes it does. It keeps people alive. You love someone you want to protect them. The longer they live the more chance there will be offspring. It is logical. Just not how it plays out all the time lol Though I agree with you about unconditional love for the most part. Love can be very powerful though.

No, that's just you. I don't want offspring. Not any time within the next decade anyway at the very least.

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

(10-27-2011 01:59 PM)|55555| Wrote:  

(10-27-2011 04:50 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  

Quote:that has seemingly no place in logic.

Uh yes it does. It keeps people alive. You love someone you want to protect them. The longer they live the more chance there will be offspring. It is logical. Just not how it plays out all the time lol Though I agree with you about unconditional love for the most part. Love can be very powerful though.

No, that's just you. I don't want offspring. Not any time within the next decade anyway at the very least.

No it isn't just me. I also never said it has to do with YOU wanting offspring. It just keeps people alive so they CAN have offspring at some point.

[SoulRiser]

Shippony, you just managed to ruin the concept of unconditional love. Congrats.

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

(10-27-2011 03:04 PM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Shippony, you just managed to ruin the concept of unconditional love. Congrats.

I feel I have unconditional love towards certain people. Besides... look at the awesome feelings evolution has created for us. To help keep us going. Pretty amazing to me.

[The Desert Fox]

Split to Random Crap.

[DUBAS]

Friendship is love minus sex and plus reason. Love is friendship plus sex and minus reason.

-Mason Cooley

[gore goroth]

(11-10-2011 06:44 AM)DUBAS Wrote:  Friendship is love minus sex and plus reason. Love is friendship plus sex and minus reason.

-Mason Cooley

The reason why couples get divorced all the time is because nowadays love is exactly that. If possible I want to find a combination sex AND reason.

[nuttyz68]

If you have unconditional love for someone you will do anything for them and will ignore everything else but them. Love is great if you have found it but envious if others do and you don't.

[SoulRiser]

Ignoring everything else isn't a good idea though. That can turn into obsession and that can actually screw up the unconditional love because it makes you clingy and needy. So you need to prevent that from happening.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

Love is like fire,there's a 1% percent chance you won't get burned.Love is like water,it heals sometimes,and it hurts sometimes.Love is like air,you expect it will pass you bye,but you know it won't.Finally,love is like Earth,it's impossible to fight.

[Ky]

^ That sounds pretty deep...and copypasted.

I think I've already found a definition to love. Read 1 Corinthians 13.

[Heil_Kaiba8921]

(09-24-2012 09:43 AM)YoungestAnarchist Wrote:  love is like Earth,it's impossible to fight.

It is entirely possible to fight the Earth considering Earth can be classified as just dirt, and you can punch dirt and it won't fight back, it's also not impossible to fight the movement of Earth because people have been effectively doing that with their houses for a few years now.

Who else loves to point out flaws in "meaningful" quotes?

I personally have only met 1 person in the last 3 years of my life that I actually fell in love with, had a few girlfriends though, and the only reason I'm not allowed to see her anymore is because I made a dumb joke related to her using the smiley on FB one time and her dad made her delete her FB, email, and either change her number or they just blocked me, possibly both though, and she got in touch with me recently and told me she did some crazy stuff this summer and got in trouble a lot, but I haven't been able to get in touch with her since. So yeah, in conclusion, I think it is extremely rare (even rarer than finding an emerald in Minecraft while using a 1.2.5 map) to find someone that you feel an unconditional love for.

[Deez_Nutz_In_Ya_Mouth_69]

In my opinion, love is great. Love can lift your spirit when you're down. Love is something I haven't found quite yet, but I'm sure as hell ready. Love doesn't have to be all mushy gushy. It can just be a great friendship in which two or more people care and respect each other. But we all have to remember: Love can fuck you up badly if you let it completely take you over...

[Miller0700]

(09-27-2012 04:05 AM)Deez_Nutz_In_Ya_Mouth_69 Wrote:  In my opinion, love is great. Love can lift your spirit when you're down. Love is something I haven't found quite yet, but I'm sure as hell ready. Love doesn't have to be all mushy gushy. It can just be a great friendship in which two or more people care and respect each other. But we all have to remember: Love can fuck you up badly if you let it completely take you over...

For a screen name and signature, I didn't expect well written post like this one.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

Yes,everyone should feel loved.Not feeling loved is one of the leading causes of suicide.We might be able to fix it by stopping schools from making young love less natural.Something might work.As long as divorces stop happening.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

I just figured out my crush is most likely on the same street. Talk about possibly slight plot twist if I get off all these forums and reddit.

[SomeRandomHuman]

(09-29-2012 10:42 PM)MentalAnarchist Wrote:  Yes,everyone should feel loved.Not feeling loved is one of the leading causes of suicide.We might be able to fix it by stopping schools from making young love less natural.Something might work.As long as divorces stop happening.

The first part is definately correct. I was trying to kill myself when my dad died and I was stuck with that crazy lady because she doesnt love me, she hated me. But now I have a guinea pig who loves me. I dont think people nees relationships with other people nessicarily, I think animals are much better, they never yell at you, hit you, make you go to hell (aka school), ect. And animals are much more fun!

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

Isn't that what a dog is for? I had a hampster but it died around this week.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

Love is only what is needed for animal reproduction. Affection is just what is needed to fall in love in order to keep the species from being extinct. Love isn't exactly necessary, and is simply a way evolution works as animals evolve into reproducing themselves like us mammals so that we won't end up like dinosaurs. Love is useless and all you need is sperms and other reproduction materials to reproduce therefore there is no need for sex. Love is just a way to keep people happy about themselves that they're worth something when they're not. Love is just another useless aspect in life that is often misused and with growing technology we won't need love by the time Obama's second term is over. You don't need love unless you need constant self confidence in yourself that you can't produce by yourself and stop you from killing yourself to the point your species is extinct. Without love the only loss is your human ignorance of feeling important.

[Ky]

(11-11-2012 01:49 AM)AmericanAtheistAnarchist Wrote:  Love is only what is needed for animal reproduction. Affection is just what is needed to fall in love in order to keep the species from being extinct. Love isn't exactly necessary, and is simply a way evolution works as animals evolve into reproducing themselves like us mammals so that we won't end up like dinosaurs. Love is useless and all you need is sperms and other reproduction materials to reproduce therefore there is no need for sex. Love is just a way to keep people happy about themselves that they're worth something when they're not. Love is just another useless aspect in life that is often misused and with growing technology we won't need love by the time Obama's second term is over. You don't need love unless you need constant self confidence in yourself that you can't produce by yourself and stop you from killing yourself to the point your species is extinct. Without love the only loss is your human ignorance of feeling important.

Why do I get the impression that you're chick repellent?

Love is a virtue, not a vice. It is the cornerstone of positive human contact, the deterrent to many a moral crime.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

Love to me is just a natural instinct of animals in human nature, also chicks are yolk in eggs.

[Ky]

(11-11-2012 12:46 PM)AmericanAtheistAnarchist Wrote:  Love to me is just a natural instinct of animals in human nature, also chicks are yolk in eggs.

I think you're confusing love and sex drive, and suspect that you lack in both of them.

[SomeRandomHuman]

(09-30-2012 11:32 PM)AmericanAtheistAnarchist Wrote:  Isn't that what a dog is for? I had a hampster but it died around this week.

Goodbye hamster, rip.

[AtheistLGBTQAnarchist]

I don't know, these days everything related to each other to people is basically the same thing which is what makes us sound so ignorant at times. No word in the English language means the exact same thing people!

[Ky]

(11-13-2012 09:14 AM)AmericanAtheistAnarchist Wrote:  I don't know, these days everything related to each other to people is basically the same thing which is what makes us sound so ignorant at times. No word in the English language means the exact same thing people!

Seriously? Love =/= sex drive.

According to 1 Corinthians 13:

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."

Sex drive is just the desire to have sex (or, in your case, masturbate). As you can see, very different things.