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The Meaning of Life

The Meaning Of Life

The Human Struggle
if I were to have one core principal...it would be that the human condition is to struggle. That if life were perfect, it'd be boring and worthless. It's about the journey rather than the destination. But in order for the journey to be worthwhile, you have to want the destination. In order to enjoy the journey, you have to know that the destination is unattainable...

The Meaning of Life
Imo meaning of life is simply to experience it. There is no 'greater good' or awesome afterlife (though I do think there an afterlife, it just ain't no heaven or hell). We live, simply to live. What other purpose could we have?

The Control Manifesto
The guy who wrote this book has a really interesting point of view. The last few chapters are kinda weird. He writes that we only have 2 options, to embrace Control or Chaos. But I think everyone can take control of their lives and live chaotically by making their own choices. Choice is chaotic, because if no one else knows what you're going to do, the outcome can't be determined and the situation can't be controlled.

Life Life Life..
Why is it so stressful.
Most people live til there 70, then we die. We leave back our sucess our money our fame. It always happens when you die.
You live, then you're over.
Life is a waste dont you think?

Humanity
What does it mean to be human?

A Few Questions
1. What are you?
2. What is the self?
3. What is consciousness?
4. What is freedom?
5. What does it mean to own something?
6. What is the difference between a want and a need?

A New Day
Ethics and morality is something that has troubled me for a long time. Not acting good, but knowing what is good has troubled me. Consequentialism is opposed to rights and duty. Deontology is opposed to maximizing the good. Virtue ethics is without power.
This search for truth has left me exhausted and depressed.
But I think I have come upon the truth: what is right is love and what is good is happiness. I have no grand arguments for why this is true, I have no rhetoric. All I can say is that God is Love, that all beings are the children of God, and life without God is insignificant.

Some Thoughts
What is the meaning of life? I say that the only worthwhile meaning of life is to be happy.
How do you be happy? There are two types of happiness, that resulting from sensual pleasure and that resulting from the Ultimate. Achieving perfect happiness is the only goal worth having. But as most will not achieve it in one lifetime, we must settle for sensual pleasures while we continually purify ourselves.
The question then becomes, how do we achieve those happinesses? Each has their own way that are complementary. The way to achieve temporal happiness is to know what will make you happy.

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The greatest thing about life, is that there is no true meaning of it. Even in your after life you either belief you have a 95% chance of burning in a pit of lava for eternity or if you're like me you believe after life is just eternal darkness you can't imagine because you can't think. When you're dead, all you have is just a dead possibly bloody decomposing corpse.

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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Another bump

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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In a sense, life is eternal.

If we have no recollection before we were alive, and will have no awareness when we are dead, then life as we know it is all we'll ever know.
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http://forums.school-survival.net/showth...ng+of+life

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lol... that's pretty funny actually.

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Lol lunatic

The purpose of life is a life with a purpose
So I’d rather die for a cause than live a life that is worthless
I don’t need the circus or the day of national observance
I need you to think for you and stop being a servant
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LOL! Rofl
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The meaning of life: 42

and if you ever figure out why 42 is the meaning, let us all know...just know that when you figure it out, you'll realize you were overthinking the reasoning (according to the only guy that was ever told the reason)

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(12-03-2012 07:25 AM)Heil_Kaiba8921 Wrote:  The meaning of life: 42

and if you ever figure out why 42 is the meaning, let us all know...just know that when you figure it out, you'll realize you were overthinking the reasoning (according to the only guy that was ever told the reason)
That's an easy one. It's 2 times 21.

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I'm thinking of becoming a psycologist when i get out of that hell hole called school. Any advice or reccomendtions for college?



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(01-08-2013 02:00 PM)greywolf Wrote:  I'm thinking of becoming a psycologist when i get out of that hell hole called school. Any advice or reccomendtions for college?

Please, no. Psychologists are horrible. Think of everything you hate about school; psychologists exist to perpetuate all that crap and to make people OK with it.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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^ That seems to be a bit of a generalization, although I'm sure there are far too many psychologists that seek to exploit their profession (or simply never side with their clients).

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I thought of becoming a psychologist. If I did, I would not fit planetfall's description of them. So it stands to reason that there are others that won't fit the description either.

Anyway, it seems maths is actually a requirement for psychology. Don't ask me why.

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Math for psychology? I can't think of a single case that would require math(except for telling time and figuring out the payment stuff).

I've found the meaning of life, or more properly the meaning of my life. Of course no one else can understand it because we can assume the meaning of my life is only in a language I can understand yet can't accurately translate for others to understand. What we live through, what we experience, what we feel and what we think are so great a factor, that it's logically impossible for another individual to understand.

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We live in an indifferent universe. As far as we can demonstrate, there is no god or guiding force. You alone are responsible for your actions and are free to make your own meaning for life.
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^ That's the wrong Lord

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*faceplam*

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I take it I'm wrong again? Razz
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(05-02-2011 03:20 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  A Few Questions
1. What are you?
2. What is the self?
3. What is consciousness?
4. What is freedom?
5. What does it mean to own something?
6. What is the difference between a want and a need?

1. Carbon atoms, chemical reactions. Earth (flesh), Water (blood), Air (mind), and Fire (will/passion).
2. Who we really are under the 'false ego' programmed by society.
3. Awareness.
4. In America - a joke dubbed "freedumb". I think it is supposed to be about having choices to live as you like, being autonomous, and also being responsible for shaping your reality as you see fit - not answering to anyone else (you're your own Master/Mistress).
5. Hmm, depends on context and what 'something' is. I think you mean more than simply possessing an object though, right? So I'd say, when we "own" our emotions and/or actions, we take responsibility for them.
6. A want is something you might desire, but can live without (i.e., gum or cigarettes). Needs are something we can't live without, or not for long (as they can be repressed or denied) - these necessary for our survival (food, drink, air).

Very thought provoking, thank you Smile
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(05-02-2011 03:20 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  A Few Questions
1. What are you?
2. What is the self?
3. What is consciousness?
4. What is freedom?
5. What does it mean to own something?
6. What is the difference between a want and a need?

1. Energy form(soul) trapped within a fleshy vessel

2. A combination of traits and characteristics of your soul(encompasses a very broad and unspecific field), combined with genetic traits(usually holds a passive involvement) and the abilities of the fleshy vessel(both mentally and physically).

3. Consciousness is the awareness that you are stuck in a fleshy vessel, with each having their own limits and advantages, which you should also be aware of.

4. Freedom is fully exercising your free will, regardless of morality or ethics of society and culture. If it fits, it ships for a low flat rate. Wait, wrong one. If the ideas fit your mindset, so be it, but no one can tell you what ideas to follow and what not to.

5. You own anything you keep, be it obtained peacefully through trade or forcefully through conflict. Course, if an object has two owners, one of them will have to go(unless you follow the law)

6. Need arises from necessity, Want arises from luxury. You could also consider certain things a "Want to Need",where a luxury becomes considered a necessity due to societal norms(i.e telecommunication devices, automobiles etc)

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I came to conclusion that life is useless, people are useless, existence is fucking useless and why is there NOTHING instead of whatever there is right now? Well, "smart folks" told me that nothing is NOTHING therefor it doesn't exist, therefor there always is and always will be something, wooo fucking hoo, science and logic and all that shit, fuck faggot scientists, do drugs and trip your mind off till you die...

Anyways, where I was heading? So I came to conclusion that we are pieces of meat and nothing else, but thing is, I've had more and more coincidences, and because I don't believe in "just is", therefor all coincidences must mean something and obviously point to the "fact" that we live in matrix or some other crazywanksta shit that I like to think about, but thing is, I am sure it's explainable by cold fucking science bitch that just likes to destroy everything and rape your ass till you bleed to death... Oh well, let's just calculate the probability of coincidences and realize that it all makes mathematical sense...

I'm so lost... Gonna read some of your links you dropped, even tho I do not agree with your "just experience" anymore(used to), I think it's rather about the usual "just spread the semen and die" stuff...
Life is so fucking useless and confusing, what's the actual point of living, you all are retarded because you think it's worth it... Might as well just do drugs because well, it makes me feel good and "to experience it", that's the whole point of fucking life, DO DRUGS ALL TIME!!!

EDIT: I actually thought I'll be happy once I'm done with school... I've never been more wrong(coz I'm fucking lost and everything makes 0 sense and I hate everything and I want to do it my way but that would be going against the fucking current)... Anyways, here's a nice song..

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So boring.

I decided life has meaning, and that meaning is for me to follow in the steps of my role-models: Caesar, Augustus, Alexander the Great, Cyrus the Great, Nebuchadnezzar II, Genghis Khan, Napoleon etc.

Da World Shall Be Mine! Mwahaha

Seriously speaking, I don't think life has a meaning. Life just is. A desert is a desert for the sake of being a desert, it has no thought or will. It's just there, and to a Bedouin, the desert is home, to an outsider its hell. Yet nothing changes the fact that the desert is neither home nor hell, it just is.

The real question lays in if you have meaning and if that meaning is your meaning. If you define yourself, then you will have the meaning you want others to know, to show what you mean. If you don't, others will define you and society will decide your meaning.

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RE: The Meaning of Life

(06-08-2013 12:00 PM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  So boring.

I decided life has meaning, and that meaning is for me to follow in the steps of my role-models: Caesar, Augustus, Alexander the Great, Cyrus the Great, Nebuchadnezzar II, Genghis Khan, Napoleon etc.

Da World Shall Be Mine! Mwahaha

Seriously speaking, I don't think life has a meaning. Life just is. A desert is a desert for the sake of being a desert, it has no thought or will. It's just there, and to a Bedouin, the desert is home, to an outsider its hell. Yet nothing changes the fact that the desert is neither home nor hell, it just is.

The real question lays in if you have meaning and if that meaning is your meaning. If you define yourself, then you will have the meaning you want others to know, to show what you mean. If you don't, others will define you and society will decide your meaning.

Totally right. Absolutely.

I want to add, not correct you, but just add that even if society puts a definition on you, doesn't mean its objective. Even the way that I define myself isn't objective truth.

With these concepts stripped away, you see the real truth; that just about everything we do is a way to conceptualize existence; put it all into a neat little format on a big scale, or a format that makes us happy in one way or another on an individual scale.

A cup is not a cup, objectively. When you smash someone over the head with it, its a weapon. haha. When you use it to hold water, it can be called a cup.

When you sit on a table, is it a chair? Some would say its still a table, you're just sitting on it. haha... Personally, I would say that it is neither objectively. It is just a manifestation of the eternal energy of this universe. (See: my signature, lol.)

The way we use and see things determines the definition of these things. In other words, there is little escaping our point of reference.

You are the eternal energy of the universe. There is no such thing as "I"
(This post was last modified: 06-10-2013 01:21 AM by Chunklemcdunkle.)
06-10-2013 01:20 AM
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The Meaning of Life

"The meaning of life is to give life a meaning."

I read that from somewhere before. Fairly simple, but makes you think.

What do y'all think?

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^no, the meaning of "life" is "the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms."
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lol good one there!

Way to be literal about the whole thing.

You are the eternal energy of the universe. There is no such thing as "I"
06-10-2013 04:29 AM
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Fuck you, Potato.

Would be nice if you weren't so close-minded and actually given some thought to the damn quote.

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