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the forgotten Wrote:I disagree, don't get me wrong I love anarchy, I live anarchy, but I can't say no laws wwould be good. There's just no effective way to take a murderer from society in an anarchist system

Ever heard of Ireland before the Brits invaded it? It was anarchist society. They dealed with murderers, quite well. I believe this video elaborates on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZi45Mf6jYY

"I heard a joke once. Man goes to doctor says "I'm terribly depressed". Doctor says "I know just what you should do. Poliacci the clown is in town, go see him, you'll be cheered right up." The man bursts into tears. "But Doctor, I am Poliacci." Funny joke. Roll on snare drum. Everyone laugh."

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Yeah thats what im talkin about

a society where theres no money, ppl work together, where we accept eachothers religion and views instead of making them conform
where evry1 is equal and bases their lives by their OWN moral philosophy and thoughts

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the forgotten Wrote:I disagree, don't get me wrong I love anarchy, I live anarchy, but I can't say no laws wwould be good. There's just no effective way to take a murderer from society in an anarchist system

Ever heard of Ireland before the Brits invaded it? It was anarchist society. They dealed with murderers, quite well. I believe this video elaborates on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZi45Mf6jYY
Yes, I know of it, not a true anarchist society, still decision by all males, still oppression, I'm sorry but perhaps you mean Catalonia?

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Swift McGee Wrote:
the forgotten Wrote:I disagree, don't get me wrong I love anarchy, I live anarchy, but I can't say no laws wwould be good. There's just no effective way to take a murderer from society in an anarchist system

Ever heard of Ireland before the Brits invaded it? It was anarchist society. They dealed with murderers, quite well. I believe this video elaborates on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZi45Mf6jYY
Yes, I know of it, not a true anarchist society, still decision by all males, still oppression, I'm sorry but perhaps you mean Catalonia?

Ah yes, Anarchist Catalonia, good example as well. Obviously Ireland wasn't a full-blown anarchist society, but some of their practices should be practiced in anarchy, at least in my opinion.

"I heard a joke once. Man goes to doctor says "I'm terribly depressed". Doctor says "I know just what you should do. Poliacci the clown is in town, go see him, you'll be cheered right up." The man bursts into tears. "But Doctor, I am Poliacci." Funny joke. Roll on snare drum. Everyone laugh."

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Well, of course that is a brilliant idea, but to me to punish someone for a crime implies control over their life. Which is where I find a dilema.

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Intelligent people aren't necessarily good leaders, despite being capable of grasping most of the concepts of good governing, economics, and other aspects needed for a good country. It takes more then intelligence to rule a country, especially since in the past many of the best ideas were initially rejected by the so-called "intelligent" people of the day.

I do think that all leaders should be required to pass some sort of intelligence-measuring test though, since a stupid leaders is a bad one even if a smart leader isn't always a good one. Just like everything in life you have to have a balance of things for the maximum potential to be reached.
The best form of government in my opinion would be one that incorporates aspects from many systems. Socialist aspects would be needed to insure everyone's basic needs are met, capitalist aspects to insure a strong economy, and communist aspects to insure equality on some level. Democratic elections (NOT like the US system of elections, popular vote should be the only thing that matters.... George H.W. Bush was never a democratically elected president) to ensure everyone has a say in who leads.
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the forgotten Wrote:Well, of course that is a brilliant idea, but to me to punish someone for a crime implies control over their life. Which is where I find a dilema.

Then how are you going to deal with the crime? You can't let them get away with it.

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I think Noocracy is unconsciously promoting snobbery based from one's intelligence. Of course, we don't want dumbshits rule the country but it is going to be like the situation with school and the economy. They base your potency on diplomas and fancy certificates and what school you've been too and discriminate those who didn't conform to their way of learning and pursuing knowledge...

And intelligence is really a concept... How does one measure it? People aren't good indicators of it judging from how George Bush ended up president and Sarah Palin ended up in politics somehow...

It's good to have a leader with some sense of intelligence but we also need leaders with strong will, action-oriented, and respectful of the nation's say.
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the forgotten Wrote:Well, of course that is a brilliant idea, but to me to punish someone for a crime implies control over their life. Which is where I find a dilema.

Then how are you going to deal with the crime? You can't let them get away with it.

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I think Noocracy is unconsciously promoting snobbery based from one's intelligence. Of course, we don't want dumbshits rule the country but it is going to be like the situation with school and the economy. They base your potency on diplomas and fancy certificates and what school you've been too and discriminate those who didn't conform to their way of learning and pursuing knowledge...

And intelligence is really a concept... How does one measure it? People aren't good indicators of it judging from how George Bush ended up president and Sarah Palin ended up in politics somehow...

It's good to have a leader with some sense of intelligence but we also need leaders with strong will, action-oriented, and respectful of the nation's say.

Noocracy is the aristocracy of the wise.

Not intelligent.

"I heard a joke once. Man goes to doctor says "I'm terribly depressed". Doctor says "I know just what you should do. Poliacci the clown is in town, go see him, you'll be cheered right up." The man bursts into tears. "But Doctor, I am Poliacci." Funny joke. Roll on snare drum. Everyone laugh."

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"Aristocracy of the wise" is a system based on the priority of "human mind".
Which involves intelligence.
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the forgotten Wrote:Well, of course that is a brilliant idea, but to me to punish someone for a crime implies control over their life. Which is where I find a dilema.

Education. Psychologists. And a restructured society. Poof, there went crime.
And for those who do crime because they have mental illnesses, intense psychological therapy. If not, asylums.

That's gonna take ages, though.

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