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Personal growth

First, an anecdote.
I was saying in another thread that I had a rough time through my schooling; It started with a terrible bully for a teacher, which meant for the rest of my time at that school - from Year 3 (Which is fourth grade for you Amerifags) to Year 8 (Ninth grade) I was an emotional, depressed wreck with no friends or self-confidence. I moved schools, and things got better - I was still an emotional, depressed wreck, but I did have friends and a modicum of respect for myself.

It took me a long time to regain what I lost, but you know what?

School made me so much stronger.

With a week left, I feel like I can take whatever the 'real world' throws at me. There will still be assholes. There will still be bullies. There will still be injustice. and I'm okay with that.

I've had the last laugh. I have friends, good relations with my family, a meaningful relationship, and I feel good about myself. I think I can afford to be proud.

I'm not saying that I'm pro-school now. I'm saying that it is a very tough way to spend eleven years of your life, but it's made me a better person, and I'm really thankful for that.

I'd like to know what you guys think about this thesis - that the faults of the school system can actually shape brilliant people. They don't have to enjoy it, but it works. Neither am I saying that people who go the other way - and become sheep of society- are a good thing. But there's more than one possible outcome to this. Weak people buckle under the pressure and do as they are told. But people like us, we take that constant conditioning and we turn it against the state, and become brilliant people who can think for themselves AND deal with persecution.

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Re: Personal growth

Well, I can easily say you're amongst the luckier ones.

Most people, when confronted with a life like you have led, become cynical, embittered shells, choosing to forsake altogether the good sides to things.

Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.

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My life hasn't been that bad, at all. I don't want sympathy or anything like that - there are way, way worse things to experience. Yeah, some people DO become shadows of their former selves, but I guess I am just lucky I haven't.

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Re: Personal growth

Well, I learned a lot because of school (as opposed to from it)... so yeah, it can shape you for better or for worse. If it wasn't for school and all the bullies, I wouldn't have had so many issues to overcome. And if I didn't have all those issues to overcome, I'd be really different today. Not sure in what way though. Probably not a good way, actually, I think I'd be a bitch or something... because if it wasn't for all those bullies, I would never have made the decision to stand up for people who are being picked on... because I wouldn't have a clue what that's like.

So yeah, bad things need to happen to people so that they can become stronger so that they can help other people going through bad things... and if life was all rainbows and happiness, it'd be boring 'cause there'd be nothing worthwhile to work towards.

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Faby Wrote:Well, I can easily say you're amongst the luckier ones.

Most people, when confronted with a life like you have led, become cynical, embittered shells, choosing to forsake altogether the good sides to things.

Bigeek

On topic glad you've grown up Hannah.

I can agree with what your saying as struggle tends to bring out the potential in people so they can not only survive but excel.

"Yes there is pain in life, loss and sorrow but there is also joy and the pleasures of growing and learning. You can't have one without the other. I wouldn't want to sacrifice either."

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I don't think it's just school that presents this, either. It's life in general. If you can overcome the issues of daily life, and get over them, and excel within them, you become stronger.

"What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" comes to mind. I don't always agree with this, but it's true for some people.

I guess it depends on your mindset, and your drive. Mentally, overcoming difficult obstacles is a good way to build mental strength...

If you had said "we need school to create mentally tough individuals" i'd definitely of disagreed with you though. Life in general is pretty tough, and school isn't really all THAT much harder. There are always obstacles. School just happens to be one of the obstacles that I find to be utterly without physical gain, or intellectual importance. Twelve plus years is a bit much just to gain some mental toughness, especially since it only gives some people that toughness.

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I learned how totally fucked up everything is and how humanity is doomed by observing school.

To be an anarchist, is to suffer greatly. To be a black woman is to suffer secretly. To be the earth, is to suffer silently.

I wish no harm on anyone, but those whose harmful ways will not stop without the same harm.

It's time we kill this cancerous system, before it kills us and everything left of gaia. Rise from our immaturity and take back our autonomy!

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05-08-2011 02:28 AM
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hatemylifeiwanttodie Wrote:I learned how totally fucked up everything is and how humanity is doomed by observing school.

I disagree with you. Humanity is going to do just fine, operating this way. It's just a shame everyone will be miserable and brainwashed Biggrin

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Guess so, though we'll never be perfect. There'll always be power struggles and leaders and explotation and lack of freedom and shit.

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