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Eidolon Wrote:1: You've probably met quite a few Christians who weren't bigots. It's possible that you didn't even know they were Christian.

2: Or do you ask the religion of everyone you meet?
2: It's quite unsavory to do something such as that.

1: And yes, I know that the question is directed to BMP, but really, you've got to learn, not all Christians are bigots. My parents are Christians and they support gay rights. They believe in evolution, etc.

Get out of your hole, BMP.

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I live in the deep fucking south and I've met plenty of people that don't mind atheists.
I mean, a great deal of the ones I've talked about religion with are outright insufferable because they have that idea that atheists have never read the bible and that they would convert if they did, or ones who make up lies about what it says or about history, or use circular logic, or start outright preaching, etc.

But I've met plenty of Christians that don't really give a shit about any other peoples religion and are content to let others have their own beliefs.
Hell, only a handful of people have asked god to strike me down for blasphemy, and only one person has damned me to hell for not being Christian.

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If they're tolerant, they're not really Christians. Their Bible commands them to be intolerant, and by being tolerant, they're essentially disobeying the Bible, and therefore, aren't very Christian. They only think they're Christians because they believe in some mystical giant and go to church every Sunday.
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You forget that almost everyone of every religion with guidelines cherry picks their beliefs.
In fact, they have to because religious books tend to contradict themselves because they were usually written a little bit at a time over decades or even centuries.

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Zherneboh Wrote:because they were usually written a little bit at a time over decades or even centuries.
And of course, the guy who wrote the next part forgot to read the past manuscript...

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Newtown Wrote:. My parents are Christians and they support gay rights. They believe in evolution, etc.

Thats something Christians hate. you Have to be 100 % Christian or nothing at all. To be a "true Christian".

Gay rights are against the Bible.

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my church calls them caferteria catholics. cause they pick what they want to believe. but yea whatever

life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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There are a lot of different forms of Christianity. Are you really saying that only the intolerant branches are true believers? Not being Christian yourselves, I find that remarkably stupid.

There's more that I want to say, but articulating my thoughts into words is difficult. >[

I'll just say this:

Your narrow and twisted view of Christianity disgusts me. Good day. *monocle*
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Eidolon Wrote:There are a lot of different forms of Christianity. Are you really saying that only the intolerant branches are true believers?

Well look at it this way, Lutherans are intolerant of Protestants, Jehovas whitnesses and Mormons. Even if they all are Christian.


The only reason there are differen't sects is because they believe the other sects are wrong. Or the founders just wanted to make some money.

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Mystery Wrote:
Eidolon Wrote:There are a lot of different forms of Christianity. Are you really saying that only the intolerant branches are true believers?

Well look at it this way, Lutherans are intolerant of Protestants, Jehovas whitnesses and Mormons. Even if they all are Christian.


The only reason there are differen't sects is because they believe the other sects are wrong. Or the founders just wanted to make some money.
Unfortunately, intolerance is not the same as disagreement.
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Condemning a group of people to hell isn't intolerant?

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One can respect other people's beliefs even if one thinks they're going to Hell.
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TrueAnarchist Wrote:not evrything makes sense,how does ur computer work? electricity is just like magic if u think about it
No, it isn't. If you weren't a dumbass, you probably would've known that electricity isn't magic. Even if electricity were magic, it would make more sense than your bullshit Christianity. At least magic electricity would indisputably prove that magic is real, unlike your stupid Bible that was probably written by some guy with a good imagination.
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Wolfeh Wrote:You're oversimplifying religion. You may be partially right, but what you say still doesn't apply to all followers of religion.
It may not, but I don't care. I'm not going to look at one person specifically when it comes to a belief - I'm only going to look at what the belief has done to humanity.
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Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
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It's morally WRONG, no matter what religion you are or aren't, to consider every person of a group a bad person. So please, stop with the hateful comments.

Here's how religion started.
In every society, there have been religions. Egypt had their gods and goddesses, the Middle Ages had Catholicism and Christianity.
These religions were made so that the ruling class could maintain order and have an excuse to punish wrongdoers.

Now, these religions unfortunately did this by fear. If you're bad, you go to hell after death.
PERPETUAL SUFFERING FOR NONBELIEVERS.
That was just a bid for power. Join us or die. Join us or be punished.
And people followed it.
NOW

Religion has come to be generally accepted. I don't think that, because I think it is this or that, that I can tell people to stop something that may be having a beneficial effect on their life.


NOW religion has, at its best, become ONE road towards being as good of a person that you can be.

At it's worst, it's an excuse to kill and hate and be hateful. We've all studied the effects of THAT side of religion.

In my mind, the general rule is:
EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO RELIGION, BECAUSE IT'S JUST YOUR BELIEFS. AS LONG AS THEY AREN'T INFRINGING ON OTHERS' RIGHTS OR PUSHING THEIR RELIGION ON ANYONE OR HURTING ANYBODY.
IF IT HELPS YOU FIND YOUR PERSONAL SALVATION, FINE. JUST DON'T HURT YOURSELF OR ANYONE ELSE, AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOUR 'ROAD TO SALVATION' MAY NOT BE EVERYONE'S 'ROAD TO SALVATION'.
IF IT WORKS FOR YOU AND DOESN'T HURT ANYONE, FINE.


and you DON'T need religion to be a moral, responsible, reasonable human bean.

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Eidolon Wrote:There are a lot of different forms of Christianity. Are you really saying that only the intolerant branches are true believers?

Well look at it this way, Lutherans are intolerant of Protestants, Jehovas whitnesses and Mormons. Even if they all are Christian.


The only reason there are differen't sects is because they believe the other sects are wrong. Or the founders just wanted to make some money.


Lutherans are Protestants. Protestants are anyone who broke with the Roman Catholics during the Reformation. Lutherans disagree with Evangelicals on a couple things. Evangelicals are Protestants who are not Lutherans.

Branches of Christianity don't really have "founders", but I suppose you could call Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, and Knox "founders" even though they were just pointing back to what the Bible said. None of them gained much by it personally though... Zwingli got himself killed be the enemy. Calvin became a workaholic and never bother to take the time to enjoy what little he did have, barely had time to eat. Knox spent most of his life running from the English, and then when England finally became Protestant again no one in England liked him anymore. Luther got kidnapped by his friends before the Catholics could kill him, so he was forced to hide for a couple years, but the end of his life was good, he married an Ex-nun, Obviously if he hadn't disrupted the Pope's control of everything he never would have married and he'd be just another monk living a miserable life in the dark ages... So it worked out good for him.

Jehovas Witnesses and Mormons do not belive in the Trinity or the nature of Christ.
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mangareadr Wrote:Here's how religion started.
In every society, there have been religions. Egypt had their gods and goddesses, the Middle Ages had Catholicism and Christianity.
These religions were made so that the ruling class could maintain order and have an excuse to punish wrongdoers.
Now, these religions unfortunately did this by fear. If you're bad, you go to hell after death.
PERPETUAL SUFFERING FOR NONBELIEVERS.
That was just a bid for power. Join us or die. Join us or be punished.
And people followed it.

How religions started.

Quote:Because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. ... For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. ... And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

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Yes, according to Christianity.
According to me or others may be different.
That's all I'm saying on that, you make up your own mind about what you believe.

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Christianity beleives you sin if you don't spread the word.


Therefore you can't be a Christian without violating people's rights.


therefore people who endorse human rights aren't real 100% Christians.


To be a Christian you have to be 100% Christian.

You guys can't call yourselves Christians.

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Mystery Wrote:Christianity beleives you sin if you don't spread the word.
That is not at all what Christianity is about.
Mystery Wrote:Therefore you can't be a Christian without violating people's rights.
You'll have to explain this better.

I don't understand how believing someone is wrong is the same as violating their rights.

I believe that your faith (or lack thereof) is wrong. I am not stopping you from thinking that way, nor am I telling you not to. All I am doing is saying that I disagree with your views. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there don't seem to be any human rights violations there.
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Spreading the word is fine.

It's the force feeding that pisses everyone off.

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TrueAnarchist Wrote:not evrything makes sense,how does ur computer work? electricity is just like magic if u think about it


Electricity is turned on and off through certain circuits through the coding of 1's and 0's. This, in turn, creates patterns which tell the computer what to do.
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