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I removed the poll. The Education Freedom Organization, or EFO, by popular vote, is now the official name of this organization. So instead of calling it "The organization" we can call it EFO now. Fucking finally.
We have also officially decided that edfreedom.org will be the location of the website for EFO... Now it's onto construction.
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Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Well I dunno, because EFO is alot like UFO, but sure I like it.
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Again, I agree with you. School does teach you things. And once again, you are missing the point entirely. It's not that I disagree with school's mission or the things it teaches. What I object to is that the students are deprived of any choice in the matter. As benign as the intentions may be, any system that forces people into an environment where they have no say in their lives is a situation ripe for abuse of power.
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Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Blobthe15 Wrote:Well I dunno, because EFO is alot like UFO, but sure I like it.
I don't think that will pose that big of a problem, really... Now, as for the URL:
EFO.com, EFO.org, and EFO.net are all taken. edfreedom.org isn't though. I'm thinking we're going to want .org at the end, seeing as how we're an organization and all. What do you think?
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Maybe the YLF (Youth Liberation Front)?
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Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Theres been ALF, and ELF already, But I do like the sound of YLF.
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Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Bumpity bump... So we're still stuck on the name? I think 'EFO' is fine if this is a school reform group. However, a giant liberation of youth in general has its appeal. It's a matter of how endeavourous we are. Are we going to be "all or nothing" or realistic and pace ourselves? I'm fine either way, but I think most of you would pick the latter, since that was how this idea got started: simply changing schools.
Regardless, fixing schools is the first step in liberating youth, so it doesn't matter what name we pick. 'EFO' makes more sense, while 'YLF' would attract more people. Let's just move on from the name by the start of June. Next step would be... a site, right? How's that going?
"Oppressed people might overthrow their tyrants, but not if they can count on one day joining the oppressors."
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
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Provided the police doesn't come visiting with barbarous intentions, I could let you use the host. It's not like it'll hog a lot of resources or anything. And you'd get a free site design with it.
Let go of all desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass.
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Disaster lurks within good fortune;
Who can say how things will end?
Perhaps there is no end.
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
The whole thing with YLF is that it would be working towards virtually the same goals as NYRA... We don't need 2 competing youth rights agencies to split the group, what we need is a group focusing on school that is also compatible and friendly with NYRA which is the general youth-rights group...
That's what I'm thinking. And faby, that'd be pretty cool. If we go with EFO, would it be like "edfreedom.org" or something? Don't do anything yet, though, till we are definite on the name.
Maybe student liberation front? Or something... EFO's alright for me though. Actually, student liberation front sounds kind of sexy... lol
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
We still haven't decided on the name lol... There's a revote in effect. Also, voice your opinions on the names so I know if anyone is just leaving their vote there or if everyone is just ignoring this thread or something.
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
I'm pretty indifferent, as I feel like all of the suggested names are fitting and sound good. I went ahead and chose Educational Freedom Organization, after some consideration. I cast my vote for it in the poll, also... so, yea. I'm in!
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
TheOmegaJuggalo Wrote:My - Our name doesn't matter nearly as much as our actions. The current poll has 80% of the votes toward the EFO. Why not just go with that?
While the name may not matter to us, who have already subscribed to the ideas, it will matter a lot while we are trying to recruit new activist to help fight. I feel that it is absolutely essential that the name be appealing and be able to attract as many students as possible.
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Thinking from that perspective, I believe that for the most part, students tend to think education = school, and they don't like school. I like Youth Liberation Front, but I'm worried about how we'd be perceived considering we focus on school, and not as much on other issues like NYRA.
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
The names with "Front" seem like they might scare some people away. I think EFO is our best bet.
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly." - Albert Einstein
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Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
Quote:TheOmegaJuggalo's text.
Agreed. YLF makes us sound like a youth rights group moreso than a anti-school group, which isn't all bad, but NYRA already exist and all of that.
UltraRobot Wrote:The names with "Front" seem like they might scare some people away. I think EFO is our best bet.
Front seems sort of militant, in a way, which is kind of why it's appealing... I guess it could scare people away as well. ELF, for now, gets my vote but any one of them are decent, I think.
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
UltraRobot Wrote:The names with "Front" seem like they might scare some people away. I think EFO is our best bet.
Yea, I can see the "front" thing being an issue. Like I've said, the name doesn't matter so much to me, but my opinions are here anyway. I say if we don't get a solid response within the next couple of days, we go with the poll results.
Re: I propose the creation of an anti-school activist group - V2
TheOmegaJuggalo Wrote:
UltraRobot Wrote:The names with "Front" seem like they might scare some people away. I think EFO is our best bet.
Yea, I can see the "front" thing being an issue. Like I've said, the name doesn't matter so much to me, but my opinions are here anyway. I say if we don't get a solid response within the next couple of days, we go with the poll results.
Fuck it, the poll isn't really an accurate show of votes since the other options weren't originally up there, but if people aren't going to revote, or already have revoted and aren't speaking up, we'll just have to go with EFO. Fine by me. I say, we hold a meeting, make it final, and discuss and put up the website within the next week or two.
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