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My School Rules

Just some rules and expectations that really aggravate me. All taken from my handbook. Slightly edited:

This publicly funded school for college-bound students has many of the best characteristics often attributed to exclusive private schools:

*Very strict discipline
*School uniform
*High daily attendance (95%)
*High standards of academic performance and behavior
*Small class size (15-20)
*Individualized instruction
*100% certified, Highly Qualified teachers
*Parent and community participation and cooperation
*Safe and orderly learning environment
*For the past ten years, 100% of our seniors have graduated and been accepted to institutions of higher education!
*Nurturing enviornment that changes students' lives

Our school has made AYP for the past seven years in a row! Additionally, it has been named a Distinguished School by the Pennsylvania Department of Education for bridging the achievement gap and exceeding the federal AYP benchmarks for 2 consecutive years.

Pg. 5- Expectations and Honor Code

Because or school is a school of choice, students and their parents/guardians are expected to adhere to strictly to rules and regulations as described in the handbook.... In order for school staff to provide a safe environment conductive to learning, all students are expected to conduct themselves with dignity, respect and responsibility.

Pg. 11- Appearance and Dress Code

From the time students leave home in the morning to the time school is over, all students are required to wear a clean, pressed uniform that is in good condition...... Under no circumstances should be the school blazer, tie, or any other uniform item be left in a school locker.

Students who come to school without a complete uniform are considered to be in violation of the Appearance and Dress Code. These students will be give 2 Administrative Detentions (Hour-and-half detentions to be severed after-school on Thursday's and Fridays). I'll go more detail on ADs later on.

Pg. 12-13: Uniform Guidelines

Blazer- Taking off the blazer on the school premises without a staff member's permission is a violation of the dress code. Sleeves of the blazer should not be rolled up at anytime.

Shirt- A plain white, button-down Oxford shirt must be worn. The shirt must be tucked into the pants at all times and collars must be turned and buttoned down at all times. Sleeves of the shirt should not be rolled up at any time.

Pants- Hemmed (Not rolled up) pants must be worn at the wait, not lower on the hips, with a black belt through the loops. The hem of the pants are a violation of the dress code. Long or baggy pants are a violation of the dress code. There should not be any visible logos, tags,or pockets on the pants.

Skirt- Females may choose to wear the approved school shirt. The skirt must be worn at knee length. Skirt length must range no shorter than the top of the kneecap. to no longer than two inches below the bottom of the knee. Rolling up the skirt, whether intentional or not, is strictly forbidden and will result in 1 or more ADs and/or the student being prohibited from wearing the skirt for the skirt for the remainder of the year; instead, the student will have to wear school pants.

Ties- Males: Must wear the official school male tie, knotted properly and tied to cover the top button of the shirt. Females: Must wear the official school bow-tie adjusted to cover the top button of the shirt

Shoes and Socks- School shoes must be solid black with no logos or tags.
Males: Solid blue or black socks must be worn
Females: Solid (Not sheer blue or black) knee high trouser socks or stockings must be worn.
During winter months, boots may be worn to school but be removed and placed in the student's locket upon to the school building. Boots and/or hi-tops are not be allows to be worn at any other time.

Hair and Nails- Hair should be neatly groomed. No hats will be permitted in the school building during the school day. Long, colorful natural or fake fingernails are not permitted. Only clear or "Cotton Candy" nail polish is allowed. Only moderate, natural appearing make-up is permitted while in uniform.

Earrings and Accessories- Only post earrings, no larger than a dime, are allowed. One per ear. All other visible piercing are forbidden. Excessive jewelry or bracelets are not permitted.

Sweaters- A solid navy, blue, black, or white V-neck or cardigan sweater, may be worn under the school blazer. Hooded sweatshirts are strictly forbidden in the school after 7:54 AM

Polo Shirts- From May 1st to October31st, school polo shirts may be worn instead of the blazer, tie, and dress shirt. The rest of the uniform will remain the same. The polo shirt must be tucked into school pants or shirt. Nothing should be worn over the shirt and undergarments should not protrude from the shirt's sleeves. No jacket, sweater, coat or similar outfitting should be worn over the polo shirt during the school day. Wearing the polo shirt is a privilege, not a right. Violation of the Polo Shirt Policy will deprive the student of this privilege. Student on Probationary Contract (Explain later in another post, hopefully) will not be able to wear the polo shirt.

Attendance

Pg. 14,18, and 20- Regular attendance and punctuality are mandatory. All students must wait outside in a neat and orderly line no later than 7:40 AM, to be checked in for school unless instructed otherwise. After students are checked in, they are permitted to access their lockers and/or to see staff member if need be. At 7:50 AM, a warning bell will sound, at which time all students will be required to head directly to their A period classes and be seated and quiet before the second bell, at 7:55 AM. A student who arrives to A period after the 7:55 bell without a hall pass or an office late pass will be written up by the teacher and will receive 1 AD (What the hell are ADs?!?)

Every-time a student is absent, he/she must present a written note from his or her parent/guardian to the school office on the day of the student's return. Its the students responsibility to obtain all missing assignments upon his or her return to obtain all missing assignments upon his or her return to school and to complete them within the time frame established by each teacher. If a student has a combination of 25 or more absences and latenesses, which results in missing the first period. he/she will automatically fail the first period subject.


Grading System

Pg. 24

A (94-100) Superior
B(86-93) Good
C (80-85) Satisfactory
D (75-79) Below Average
F (0-74) Has failed to meet the minimum requirements of the course or has received and Administrative Failure due to excesive absences or latenesess.

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I got a double-meaning from the title and thought you were saying how your school is awesome.

Anyway, that's a fucked up place you go to. It truly amazes me how much people care about appearances. I mean, a military having a uniform is understandable, but some schools go too far: "Wearing the polo shirt is a privilege, not a right." Really? Really?

"Violation of the Polo Shirt Policy will deprive the student of this privilege. Student on Probationary Contract (Explain later in another post, hopefully) will not be able to wear the polo shirt."

Polo shirts are srs...

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You're going there?... just... try to do everything you can not to O_o it sounds fucking insane.

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Lux Wrote:I got a double-meaning from the title and thought you were saying how your school is awesome.

Anyway, that's a fucked up place you go to. It truly amazes me how much people care about appearances. I mean, a military having a uniform is understandable, but some schools go too far: "Wearing the polo shirt is a privilege, not a right." Really? Really?

"Violation of the Polo Shirt Policy will deprive the student of this privilege. Student on Probationary Contract (Explain later in another post, hopefully) will not be able to wear the polo shirt."

Polo shirts are srs...

I hardly get in trouble there cause I don't do anything. You have to act like a stiff there to get by.

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Quote:has many of the best characteristics often attributed to exclusive private schools

LOL They think they are special. Let troubled kids from the ghetto in and your discipline and "honor" code will go right out the window.

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UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:
Quote:has many of the best characteristics often attributed to exclusive private schools

LOL They think they are special. Let troubled kids from the ghetto in and your discipline and "honor" code will go right out the window.
They have and most have been expelled 2 months later.

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Derchin Wrote:
UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:
Quote:has many of the best characteristics often attributed to exclusive private schools

LOL They think they are special. Let troubled kids from the ghetto in and your discipline and "honor" code will go right out the window.
They have and most have been expelled 2 months later.

There you go.

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Holy shit, your school is almost the exact opposite of freedom of expression.
Cannot wear this that size, that and those and bla bla bla.
They seriously want everyone to be the same.
Honestly, it freaks me out a little bit ..

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You actually get used to it after awhile.

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JESUS

Well at least you're not suffering?... that's... good to know...

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Derchin Wrote:You actually get used to it after awhile.
Like the way a horse gets used to being whipped.

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wtf double post...

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Lux Wrote:
Derchin Wrote:You actually get used to it after awhile.
Like the way a horse gets used to being whipped.


Derchin Wrote:I hardly get in trouble there cause I don't do anything. You have to act like a stiff there to get by.

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Derchin Wrote:
Lux Wrote:
Derchin Wrote:You actually get used to it after awhile.
Like the way a horse gets used to being whipped.


Derchin Wrote:I hardly get in trouble there cause I don't do anything. You have to act like a stiff there to get by.
I apologize. I forgot to mention that I consider being forced to "act like a stiff" akin to being mentally whipped. It's just easier for some people I guess... Rolleyes

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Is this Stuyvesant High School?
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Ayliana Wrote:Is this Stuyvesant High School?
Nope

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Derchin Wrote:
Ayliana Wrote:Is this Stuyvesant High School?
Nope
I find it fitting how their site is so plain and boring. Some schools should pay Absent to work on their layout 'cause even the EFO site looks better.

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Forgot to mention that you have to use this small wooden block to use the bathrooms at lunchtime even though they're five feet away. Only three people per bathroom (Sucks). Its so something like a fight never happens apparently.

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http://www.macs.k12.pa.us/MACS_Success.pdf

"While teaching at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, during the 1970s, I became aware of an unusually high rate of failures and dropouts among high school youth in the Philadelphia public schools... The experience of working with youth from these groups at the IAC as well as in a public school setting convinced me that the continued negative trend of youth failure could be reversed. Besides my genuine interest in saving these young lives..."

Somebody get these people to save mah life.

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Is anyone elses grades scale like ours?

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Derchin Wrote:Is anyone elses grades scale like ours?
Ours:

100: A+
92-99: A
82-91: B
72-81:C
68-71Biggrin
67 or Below: F

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2, one and a half hour detentions for dress code WTF!

Also since when has 74%=F?

In my ("public") school, the highest F is 59%.
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fish20 Wrote:2, one and a half hour detentions for dress code WTF!

Also since when has 74%=F?

In my ("public") school, the highest F is 59%.

Its so that we can "work harder to succeed" if the stakes are higher.

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I wonder what psychological problems they're causing.

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(09-28-2011 10:46 AM)Blobthe15 Wrote:  I wonder what psychological problems they're causing.

I go in there and leave out almost everyday angry or pissed off.

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You're stuck in a bad place when wearing a purple belt is considered rebelling.

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I've seen so much shit done to youth and for some reason, this has made me angrier than I've felt in years. Abuse and oppression happens all over the world. It's a terrible reality of modern society, but we've all accepted that it happens and we're doing what we can to fight it and build a better world.
But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being computer-savvy...it's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?

You're a journalist. DO. YOUR. FUCKING. JOB.

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After goofing off and talking a little when college representatives came to our school, the prinicple had enough apparently.

Today he came in our second period class telling us how dissapointed he was in us. "He was never given an oppurtunity like this" or so he said.

If we were to either talk, sleep, goof off, or look "uninterested", we will be sitting in his office doing educational work, and most likely fail the course. We may even fail English 4 because the courses are nearly interdisplinary.

Wow. All I can say...

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They can punish you for "looking uninterested"? What a bunch of butthurt morons. And your school's principal seems to be a goddamn douchebag.

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(09-30-2011 10:41 AM)UltraRobot Wrote:  They can punish you for "looking uninterested"? What a bunch of butthurt morons.

It crazy because we haven't been punished for talking after that speech.
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Derchin Wrote:Is anyone elses grades scale like ours?
Ours:

100: A+
92-99: A
82-91: B
72-81:C
68-71Biggrin
67 or Below: F

I wish ours was like that. Me and countless others would pass stuff more often.
No lie.

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Our teachers aren't as bad as yours, but they're getting tweaked. The principle is threatening to bump the F up to 70, assigned seats up the whazoo, and silence in lunch and in the buses.

"Ask them no more questions, never hear them lying"

People say the problem with me is I have psychotic tendencies and care not about other human beings I don't like and or know. So?
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