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And why do you say that in this thread Hansgrohe?

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He literally said he broke up with his partner so he could start a relationship with Night.

Like dafuq

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(06-26-2017 06:01 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  sorry to blow your load but night has a boyfriend

hans im not liking the way you expressed your feelings here.

i want to remind you, i am setting some new standards of conduct here

before i came online i was thinking "we need to be a model for young people"

ie to show them a better, ie healthier, ie less violent way of communicating.

you are a smart guy

you obviously have the ability to learn, imitate, repeat

for example the way you started one of your threads about sr with

"It has come to my attention"

I dont know if anyone else noticed that as a warning flag but i did.

I am not going to accept the old ways of communicating on here.

I am not going to accept being judged, bullied attacked, mocked etc.

I am officially warning you with this post.

I am dead serious.

As long as I have soul's support i am going leave my impact on this forum

I will leave my own legacy, so to speak.

I 'm sorry you and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things. But this is the new reality here.

You had your chance at being a mod.
You blew it.
You tried to blame sr.

I didn't buy it

How long have you known SR?

I expect and pretty much demand you answer my questions.

I, like Soul, will not accept being ignored.

You stirred up a lot of shit.

That bothers me.

Don't fuck with me or you are gone.

Is that very clear?

So back to your opening line

It has come to my attention...

This shows me you can remember things and repeat them.

But why did you open with those words?

And how were you feeling?

Im sorry, my "friend" but if you cant answer my questions to my satisfaction you are gone.

You and your army of hostile people can say whatever you want about me and SR and Ben and Dove.

But where is it getting you exactly?

What are your needs? What is driving you to put so much energy into attacking us?

Night used an expression she picked up in the sick culture of the USA

She used it today

She said something about look in the mirror.

So I will ask you to do that.

If you don't get what I mean, Ask night to try to help you figure it out

I personally didnt know what exactly she was talking about or how she felt or what her need was that motivated her to pull those words out of her database or her arsenal of ways to attack people.

This attacking is going to stop here.

You can say I am a hypocrite cuz I am attacking you. Fine. Guilty as charged.
But I have a new responsibility now.

I am responsible for setting a new course for SS or perhaps, for getting back on course.

So call me the captain from now on or I will ban you.

haha

Just kidding....

I have my own sense of humor. My friends like it. Not everyone likes my sense of humor or my "style" or my beliefs or my personality, or etc etc.

To them I raise my middle finger.

Got me?

If there is anything you are not clear about plz ask me.

But be a little careful in how you ask me cuz you have one warning now already and I think in your next post you are going to have 2.
I am gonna cut you some slack - I might give u 10 warnings

This is all new for you

You dont understand what the fuck is going on or who the hell this new mother fucker is.

But you know you dont like it.

Agree?

I want to try something with you.

I want to ask you how much you believe you understand why SR de- modded you, from zero to ten.

I am modeling a new way of communicating. If you dont like it - if it is painful for you, then you can leave voluntarily.

So I want an answer

How much do you believe you understand why Soul dm'd you, from zero to ten?

I want and in fact I am pretty much demanding that you tell me why she dm'd you. And and then we are going to ask her how much she feels understood.

Your life here at ss depends on your answers.

This is no game. This is not for fun. It is not entertainment

It is god damn life and death important.

And can you please try to explain why so many teenagers tell me that I and my website eqi.org have saved their lives?

Do some research if you want. Take your time

But give serious answers or you are gonna be racking up the warnings pdq

Is there anything u dont understand so far?

Something else
plz read my post about night again and tell me what factual errors and wrong assumptions and wrong interpretations you made.

Do your goddamn research ok?

Do not come at me with fucking lies.

Read the goddamn post again. Carefully.

I didnt edit it. So dont try to say oh he must have changed it.

Ask night what god damn year I was talking about

Do your fucking research.

Got me?

hans plz also ask night to tell you about her bf the year in question.

please ask her if she would call him abusive
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(06-26-2017 06:14 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  He literally said he broke up with his partner so he could start a relationship with Night.

Like dafuq

second warning. spreading lies

third warning "dafuq"

now tell me how u feel about me giving u a warning for saying dafuq

tel me how you feel with a feeling word.

if you cant do that you are gonna get another warning for being god damn emotionally il fucking literate

if you dont know what emotional literacy is, do some research
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you are completely insane mate
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(06-26-2017 06:10 PM)Benjavaz Wrote:  And why do you say that in this thread Hansgrohe?
i assume cuz i was talking about her in my previous post
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(06-26-2017 07:09 PM)St. Hein Wrote:  my fucking god you are truly insane

someone made this pink but i like it

i like this st hein

i want to see where this goes

it is amusing
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you're amusing mate

truly i have never met a more insane person
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(06-26-2017 07:12 PM)thewake Wrote:  Guys please learn to express your emotions with feel words



Watch on YouTube

warning 1

i feel mocked

did i misinterpret that cuz i am "too sensitive" and "get my feelings hurt too easily"?

or did u intend to mock me?

no answer = second warning
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(06-26-2017 07:14 PM)stevehein Wrote:  no answer = second warning

you remind me of hitler in that you're a megalomaniac
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did i misinterpret that cuz i am "too sensitive" and "get my feelings hurt too easily"?

or did u intend to mock me?

no answer = second warning
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(06-26-2017 07:10 PM)St. Hein Wrote:  you are completely insane mate

thank you, coming from u i take that as a compliment st hein

oh and most of my best friends are insane too

in fact my best friend here in uruguay was locked up in a mental hospital last month

she tried to kill herself may 1 17:00

and on june 24, ie 2 days ago i asked her how sad are you feeling from 0-10

she replied 9

i started crying. felt scared as shit

sent her a hug
told her i loved her
said im on skype if you want to talk

i found out later she had already said goodbye to her pets

but i had her laughing within the next 2 hours

she said i saved her life

her name is lucia

i will ask her to create an account here to verify/confirm all of this

so, sth

thanks for your post it inspired me to tell that true story

oh she has a bf his name is gaston

last night i sent her a txt saying ilu bf

her reply?

i luv u more bf

(06-26-2017 07:21 PM)thewake Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 07:14 PM)stevehein Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 07:12 PM)thewake Wrote:  Guys please learn to express your emotions with feel words

warning 1

i feel mocked

did i misinterpret that cuz i am "too sensitive" and "get my feelings hurt too easily"?

or did u intend to mock me?

no answer = second warning

Yep.

ok thanks

i take away the warning. u are at zero

(06-26-2017 07:19 PM)St. Hein Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 07:14 PM)stevehein Wrote:  no answer = second warning

you remind me of hitler in that you're a megalomaniac



thank u

hug

(06-26-2017 07:14 PM)St. Hein Wrote:  you're amusing mate

truly i have never met a more insane person

thank you

i feel special

ha ha
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(06-25-2017 01:51 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  No wonder this place gets no traffic.

This site gets no traffic because the front page STILL doesn't have a noticeable forum link. The only way to find the forums is 1) read through the entire front page where a subtle link is buried in the text 2) through Google (or in a freak incident Bing). You don't care about traffic.
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(06-26-2017 02:57 AM)Night Wrote:  I banned a user for 5 fucking days not even a entire week because I don't think defending pedophilia is something this place should be supporting. Like you talk about empathy but where's the empathy for the teens who come here as victims of sexual abuse? hm?? You think saying things like "What's wrong with was pedophiles do" is fucking OK!?

Let me fucking repeat that for the people in the back; do you fucking think saying shit like '"What's wrong with what pedophiles do?" is ok!?

Fucking tell me how that's something we should just let run amok on the forums, what fucking logic are you following? Answer me seriously because you never fucking answered me last night. Doesn't exactly give one the impression you're listening and I thought that was your whole thing.

Not to mention it doesn't exactly look good for you, a grown man, to side with pedo enablers on a site full of people under the age of 18. Just sayin!

Remember all I did was give a user the internet equivalent of a fucking timeout and closed the thread, and you took away my mod powers. You have permabanned two users essentially because you just don't like them, two users that could've been given a warning, or *gasp* a 5 day time out! Not a fucking permaban, that's never really been what this forum is about except for truly abusive people. And personally I find pedophilia a bit more abusive than the banter Gwedin and Ury engage in. But no, she's not a problem at all, all because you DO like her. You're fucking overflowing with conflict of interest and special treatment.

You don't deserve this position. I've been here a long time and never seen such a disgusting abuse of their position. Get over yourfuckingself.


If we're going to become a forum that supports the raping and traumatization of young children, well you can say goodbye to most of the current active members. You may as well be pedophiles yourself.

Nobody was defending child rape. You just disagree with consistent opinions on whether a child can be trusted with "consent". Korravatar thinks they can; Personally I think they can't, because adults can't be trusted with it either; but you guys think adults can, but children can't, which is extremely ironic considering this forum is supposed to be anti-ageist. What are you even doing on this forum then? Get consistent or get out.
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I agree with Jop. Stop labeling us as pedo enablers.

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(06-26-2017 08:27 PM)Jop Wrote:  
(06-25-2017 01:51 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  No wonder this place gets no traffic.

This site gets no traffic because the front page STILL doesn't have a noticeable forum link. The only way to find the forums is 1) read through the entire front page where a subtle link is buried in the text 2) through Google (or in a freak incident Bing). You don't care about traffic.

thanks for this jop. just one thing, who do u mean doesnt care about traffic?

and would u likr more people to use the forums?
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thank you, coming from u i take that as a compliment st hein

oh and most of my best friends are insane too

in fact my best friend here in uruguay was locked up in a mental hospital last month

she tried to kill herself may 1 17:00

and on june 24, ie 2 days ago i asked her how sad are you feeling from 0-10

she replied 9

i started crying. felt scared as shit

sent her a hug
told her i loved her
said im on skype if you want to talk

i found out later she had already said goodbye to her pets

but i had her laughing within the next 2 hours

she said i saved her life

her name is lucia

i will ask her to create an account here to verify/confirm all of this

so, sth

thanks for your post it inspired me to tell that true story

oh she has a bf his name is gaston

last night i sent her a txt saying ilu bf

her reply?

i luv u more bf

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(06-26-2017 09:19 PM)stevehein Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 08:27 PM)Jop Wrote:  This site gets no traffic because the front page STILL doesn't have a noticeable forum link. The only way to find the forums is 1) read through the entire front page where a subtle link is buried in the text 2) through Google (or in a freak incident Bing). You don't care about traffic.

thanks for this jop. just one thing, who do u mean doesnt care about traffic?

and would u likr more people to use the forums?

It was a not-serious remark about the neglection of the forum link.

And yes I would like this forum (or another anti-school forum) to have as many users as possible, of course. Isn't that the point of a BBS, having people to discuss a subject with?
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This is why I rarely express my views on child sexuality and the age of consent. People seem to assume I'm for the raping and traumatizing of kids. Hell no. Forcing yourself on an unwilling person and causing them pain is scarring for anyone.

I'm just questioning why unforced and harmless intimacy is deemed inherently harmful to people under 16 (or 18), but fun and pleasureful for adults.
How would a much younger person having fun exploring their sexuality by masturbating or experimenting with those their age be pretty much ok to many people, but the moment an adult(harmlessly, without penetration when it's with someone very young, and at the younger person's level) shares intimacy with them(and the younger person likes them, enjoys it, and may have initiated it) it's somehow the top most mentally scarring thing to ever experience in one's life?
People fail to differentiate between between force/ trauma and curiosity/enjoyment, then end up forcing a victim label on those who do not see themselves as victims, until they grow up believing they must've been victims regardless of how they felt at the time.

Since so many people either misunderstand me or have incredibly strong opposing views, I should probably stop speaking on this subject here before I get banned again or more users agreeing with me also get dragged into the pit of isolation and hate from everyone else. Ben does not deserve the shit he is getting from users just because he believes consensual relationships should not be receiving the demonization they are currently getting.

Also, Night doesn't deserve that demodding and Gwedin doesn't deserve that ban. Most people believe child intimacy with adults= Exploitation and abuse, so to them I might as well have been spouting "Legalize murder and rape!" or something, so any actions or negative words they said/did to me are pretty much justified since that's how most people would react.
Since my views are HIGHLY stigmatized, I don't want new users to think this site is for those views, and either discredit the ant-school/youth rights aspect of it or just leave the site disgusted.

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(06-27-2017 12:42 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 09:19 PM)stevehein Wrote:  
(06-26-2017 08:27 PM)Jop Wrote:  This site gets no traffic because the front page STILL doesn't have a noticeable forum link. The only way to find the forums is 1) read through the entire front page where a subtle link is buried in the text 2) through Google (or in a freak incident Bing). You don't care about traffic.

thanks for this jop. just one thing, who do u mean doesnt care about traffic?

and would u likr more people to use the forums?

It was a not-serious remark about the neglection of the forum link.

And yes I would like this forum (or another anti-school forum) to have as many users as possible, of course. Isn't that the point of a BBS, having people to discuss a subject with?

ok thanks jop

ps im gonna pass this along to sr now...
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jop- could u do me a favor b4 i write to soul?

try to reword your post so it sounds more like a friendly, helpful suggestion and less like a criticism?

if u dont want to try its ok - i will either do it for u or just c/p.

not sure yet. just thought id ask

but i agree - seems to make sense to make it more visible

(06-27-2017 03:37 AM)Korravatar Wrote:  This is why I rarely express my views on child sexuality and the age of consent. People seem to assume I'm for the raping and traumatizing of kids. Hell no. Forcing yourself on an unwilling person and causing them pain is scarring for anyone.

I'm just questioning why unforced and harmless intimacy is deemed inherently harmful to people under 16 (or 18), but fun and pleasureful for adults.
How would a much younger person having fun exploring their sexuality by masturbating or experimenting with those their age be pretty much ok to many people, but the moment an adult(harmlessly, without penetration when it's with someone very young, and at the younger person's level) shares intimacy with them(and the younger person likes them, enjoys it, and may have initiated it) it's somehow the top most mentally scarring thing to ever experience in one's life?
People fail to differentiate between between force/ trauma and curiosity/enjoyment, then end up forcing a victim label on those who do not see themselves as victims, until they grow up believing they must've been victims regardless of how they felt at the time.

Since so many people either misunderstand me or have incredibly strong opposing views, I should probably stop speaking on this subject here before I get banned again or more users agreeing with me also get dragged into the pit of isolation and hate from everyone else. Ben does not deserve the shit he is getting from users just because he believes consensual relationships should not be receiving the demonization they are currently getting.

Also, Night doesn't deserve that demodding and Gwedin doesn't deserve that ban. Most people believe child intimacy with adults= Exploitation and abuse, so to them I might as well have been spouting "Legalize murder and rape!" or something, so any actions or negative words they said/did to me are pretty much justified since that's how most people would react.
Since my views are HIGHLY stigmatized, I don't want new users to think this site is for those views, and either discredit the ant-school/youth rights aspect of it or just leave the site disgusted.

im very impressed with ur mind dove. and i share some of ur same fears and concerns

one thing to, or two.

why do u disagree with dm'ing n and banning g?
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job brought up the purpose of this forum
this is an important topic.

it is clear we dont have a consensus on this - at least not one aligned with SoulRiser - site founder and owner - and mine - super moderator.

I want to share something - SR is ok with having less people here.

And as I think of it, this forum is not helping the anti school movement

Dove is smart enough to think of that

So anyhow, SR and I agree its ok to have the size of the forum cut way down.

Let's say quality over size is our new motto. I will check with SR if I remember or she will eventually read this or some highly motivated person can post it on the Attention SoulRiser thread that Hans started digging his grave on.

lol

sorry hans

u probably won't like that little joke

btw hans, i feel a bit bad for coming across as such a control freak.

It was late at night.

So anyhow, Job, I feel a pretty decent level of respect for your posts and u so I want to ask you how you would feel if we had, say 10 members for the next month or so till more pple joined?

Id be ok with 10 and I think Soul would be but we havent gotten so specific as to set a goal in terms of members of numbers.

And on that topic, I have been thinking of backing off a bit. Giving pple some time to adjust or adapt or w/e to my new crazy insane ideas as the St Hein calls them. But some of us are suspicious it is really Gwedin

But I dont care too much at this point

Soul and I are both resourceful. We will figure out a way to clean up the forum and set it on its new course

I say new course cuz I feel sure S will agree this is gonna be a new course, not just an attempt to go back to the old course, cuz that one kind of crashed into some little icebergs and made a mess and some pple sort of drowned we could say.

So this time we want to plan a different course and maybe set a new destination.

I have already invited one of my best friends here She is LucyPres467

Those of you who feel more powerful or in control or whatever by throwing the label Pedo Enabler around have a new person you can paint with that brush.

She will eventually introduce herself and explain how we met.

She is 19 now. We met about 6 years ago. So if you do the math she was about 13.

We had good sex let me tell you.

haha

Small, bad joke

But you know what, fuck you guys who are now calling me a pedo apparently.

Show some proof.

I thought about whether I should tell the truth about Night and I.

I decided fuck it. lets see how they handle this.

haha

So I am amused by all the reaction. It will help book sales.

Yeah we are planning a book of all the craziness on this forum

to be continued...
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So, to sum it up, y'all are fine for this forum basically being a circlejerk/echochamber/hugbox with only a few people, just to protect the needs of sensitive people like you guys.

RIP GWEDIN
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RE: Steve Hein's Thread - love, sex, caring, favoritism and other things

i just sent dove a message saying i love you

im telling a lot of people i love them lately

that doesnt mean i want to have sex with them

im not grooming ben

im very hetro

im attracted to certain types of people - but there are different kinds of attraction

i love no for example - i feel protective of him

i dont want to have sex with him

i love xc - i dont want to have sex with him

by now some ppl get what i am saying

those are the people who are going to be the leaders here, if soul agrees

i abused my power

night is correct

night has feelings for a reason

so does soulriser -- so do i -- so does ben

i love and double love ben

i listen to ben. i respect ben. as i said before i damn near worship him

soul and i like and dislike the same people - usually ha ha - hug to sr - for a

R E A S O N

im trying to be clear w/out being so aggressive/abusive/controlling

we are definitely making changes here.

its been a messy process -- a lot of people are in pain

night is in pain

soul is in pain

gwedin is in a lot of pain

g doesnt know how to express it in a healthy, constructive way

im going to tell everyone something

the people i love the most are almost all depressed or suicidal

i started cutting my own wrist in 2011

i was suicidal at 18. and sexually abused at 18

im not insane. im damaged

who here has not been damaged?

the most dangerous people to society, and to soulriser's community, are pple who dont know they have been damaged

the second most dangerous are those who dont know HOW they have been damaged

anyhow there are clearly people who really do like me

and those who really dont

all for reasons

love is ok guys

even sex is ok

in fact it is a really nice thing - under the right circumstances

and what are those "right" circumstances?

id like to have what i and soul and ben and dove and lucy and lucia and no and jop and the analogist and marlena will all agree are constructive, non violent conversations.

so its not just nvc - its gona be cnvc

i have just about zero doubt soul gets this and so does everyone else i just listed

soul now has a more clear idea of what she needs to get what she wants

let me summarize what soul says loud and clear

she wants to help people

so do i

from now on, if soul agrees one of the new questions will be: was this a helpful comment?

unhelpful and violent, abusive (according to me for now, if soul agrees) will be noted in some fashion

its not hard to see who is really trying to help soul and *her* community

this is neither a dictatorship nor a democracy

it is a lovacracy, let's say

i dont know if that word exists, probably so, if it doesnt it does now

u dont have to love everyone else to be welcome here, in souls bedroom, but you have to at least are about them or basic minimum show some respect to them

now why did i just say soul's bedroom?

cuz your bedroom is the most private and intimate part of your house

and soul's sleep, her actual sleep, depends to a large degree on what happens here.

now i think its fair that people know who will be asked to leave or forcibly removed from soul's bed room or even from her bed.

one thing that is not ok in soul's bed lets say is forgetting that

A. she has feelings
B. she has needs
C. it's her space. its her bed

she needs to feel safe in her bed

if she doesnt feel safe, you wont be welcome. you wont be invited back - unless you show that you understand what YOU did to make her feel unsafe,

and she is has the final say of who she feels safe with.
just like ben.

now i will be more specific

ben has been showing me what people who he met in soul;s bedroom have been doing to him in discord.

he has the screen shots

now let me say this very quietly, almost whispering....

the people ben do not feel safe with will not be allowed in here

one way or the other, this *will* become a safe place for ben

let me repeat something

i love ben. i feel protective of him.

but i dont want to have sex with him

if you dont get that, if you dont believe that, if you mock, judge or invalidate that you are not going to be allowed in soul's bedroom

ben does not feel safe where he lives. he wrote about it in detail.

ben needs a safe place

im gonna repeat that

ben. needs. a safe place

now who did i copy that way of writing from?

from night

like this

from. night.

now i will say this again

i care about night.i like night

i started liking and caring about her when she was 16 and i found her posts about depression and her life.

and i still like and care about her her

if you think i am a pedo or pedo enabler for that you are not welcome here

at least if soul agrees with me cuz let not anyone forget this is soul's space. it is like her bedroom

she has the final call on what happens here

if soul said to me later today, steve u fucked up with such and such and i no longer feel safe having you here. id say ok. im very sorry i made you feel unsafe

i will repeat that

I, steve, made you, soul, feel unsafe.

if hans can say what he did to make soul feel unsafe or pissed or ignored - a real feeling indicating real, not imaginary, pain, then maybe soul can start to heal, and start to forgive him.


my plan is to ask people, especially new pple, how safe, respected and understtod they feel here.

they are questions i and my team of "emotional security guards" will be asking people like ben, dove

we will take their answers seriously

this, my friends has never been done anywhere in the world, at any previous time

we are making history here

i told sr a few years ago ss is gonna be part of internet history

she said, "thanks. so is eqi.org"

sr and i are two strong, rebellious, defiant, intelligent and sensitive people
and maybe she will agree, we are also both damaged

and being forced to do things against our will, against our nature, with no one asking us how we feel or what we need, was what damaged us

cause and effect

so my plan my goal is that this is going to become sr's and ben and dove's safe place

it has been my safe place off and on

when i have nowhere else to express myself and i am in pain, i come here

but i have also felt unsafe here

so, if i continue to have sr's support, i will change that
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thank u for ur thanks ben

can u help me fix my typos?

im missing one of contacts and cant see the screen well so i am making a lot these days, as d101 observed and judged me for
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