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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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I don't want to be controlled by people who don't know what I need.
I don't want to be controlled by people who don't listen to me.
I don't want to be controlled by people who don't understand me.
I don't want to be controlled by people who invalidate me.
I don't want to be controlled by people who believe in God.
I don't want to be controlled by people who force me to pay for their bombs and bullets.
Yet I am controlled by these people. Because I have an American "passport" or "leash".
And it causes me pain.
I am not free.
I am not in control of my life. I am in control of only aspects of it.
RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
Yeah, I feel I should have more control over my life. It's as if 18 is this magic number that makes people be able to think for themselves. Really? Total bullshit.
RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-16-2015 11:43 PM)Mo the jo Wrote: Yeah, I feel I should have more control over my life. It's as if 18 is this magic number that makes people be able to think for themselves. Really? Total bullshit.
Ageism. dun dun duh.
Hidden stuff:
Homework brings the hell of school home.
Gwedin Wrote: Dat feel when you get home, realise it's Friday, and itch your buttcrack.
RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-16-2015 11:43 PM)Mo the jo Wrote: Yeah, I feel I should have more control over my life. It's as if 18 is this magic number that makes people be able to think for themselves. Really? Total bullshit.
It's closer to 21.
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
01-17-2017 03:23 AM
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I don't want to be controlled by people who believe in leftist lies.
I don't want to be controlled by people who pretend to be tolerant, but they only are if you agree with their views.
I don't want to be controlled by people who have a fit every time something doesn't go their way.
I don't want to be controlled by people who make a racist or sexist issue out of nothing.
I don't want to be controlled by people who think forced acceptance equals respect.
I don't want to be controlled by people who believe I'm trying to runaway from my problems.
RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-10-2017 06:22 AM)The Unleasher Wrote: I don't want to be controlled by people who believe in leftist lies.
I don't want to be controlled by people who pretend to be tolerant, but they only are if you agree with their views.
I don't want to be controlled by people who have a fit every time something doesn't go their way.
I don't want to be controlled by people who make a racist or sexist issue out of nothing.
I don't want to be controlled by people who think forced acceptance equals respect.
I don't want to be controlled by people who believe I'm trying to runaway from my problems.
But that's just life, isn't it?
I'm genuinely curious, give some examples of leftist lies. I'm not saying that all democrats never lie or anything like that by the way, i'm actually just curious.
well would you look at the time its time to gay
02-10-2017 06:31 AM
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RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-10-2017 06:22 AM)The Unleasher Wrote: I don't want to be controlled by people who think forced acceptance equals respect.
Sounds strangely familiar...
Hidden stuff:
"CONSENSUAL incest is not wrong. (Abuse victims: being abused by a relative does not make it wrong for others to have consensual incest, any more than rape by a stranger makes all sex wrong. Sex and assault/molestation are two different things.) An aversion became common in humans that aided in population growth as one disease couldn't wipe out the human race. That's not a problem anymore.
Consensual incest is very common. You know people who have been involved, whether you know it or not.
There is no rational reason for keeping laws or taboos against consensual
incest that is consistently applied to other relationships. Personal disgust or religion is only a reason why one person would not want to personally engage in what I call consanguinamory, not why someone else shouldn't do it. An adult should be free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage with ANY consenting adults. Youthful experimentation between close relatives close in age is not uncommon, and there are more people than you'd think out there who are in lifelong healthy, happy relationships with a close relative. It isn't for everyone, but we're not all going to want to have each others' love lives, now are we? If someone thinks YOUR love life is disgusting, should you be thrown in prison?
Some people try to justify their prejudice against consanguineous sex and
marriage by being part-time eugenicists and saying that such relationships inevitably lead to “mutant” or “deformed” babies. This argument can be refuted on several fronts. 1. Some consanguineous relationships involve only people of the same gender. 2. Not all mixed-gender relationships birth biological children. 3. Most births to consanguineous parents do not produce children with significant birth defects or other genetic problems; while births to other parents do sometimes have birth defects. 4. We don’t prevent other people from marrying or deny them their reproductive rights based on increased odds of passing along a genetic problem or inherited disease. It is true that in general, children born to consanguineous parents have an increased chance of these problems than those born to nonconsanguineous parents, but the odds are still minimal. Unless someone is willing to deny reproductive rights and medical privacy to others and force everyone to take genetic tests and bar carriers and the congenitally disabled and women over 35 from having children, then equal protection principles prevent this from being a justification to bar this freedom of association and freedom to marry.
Some say "Your sibling should not be your lover." That is not a reason. It begs the question. Many people have many relationships that have more than one aspect. Some women say their sister is their best friend. Why can’t their sister be a wife, too?
Some say “There is a power differential.” This applies least of all to siblings or cousins who are close in age, but even where the power differential exists, it is not a justification for denying this freedom to sex or to marry. There is a power differential in just about any relationship, sometimes an enormous power differential. To question if consent is truly possible in these cases is insulting and demeaning.
Some say “There are so many people outside of your family." There are plenty of people within one’s own race, too, but that is no reason to ban interracial marriage. So, this isn't a good reason either. Let consenting adults love each other the way they want!"-Keith Pullman
RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-10-2017 06:31 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:
(02-10-2017 06:22 AM)The Unleasher Wrote: I don't want to be controlled by people who believe in leftist lies.
I don't want to be controlled by people who pretend to be tolerant, but they only are if you agree with their views.
I don't want to be controlled by people who have a fit every time something doesn't go their way.
I don't want to be controlled by people who make a racist or sexist issue out of nothing.
I don't want to be controlled by people who think forced acceptance equals respect.
I don't want to be controlled by people who believe I'm trying to runaway from my problems.
But that's just life, isn't it?
I'm genuinely curious, give some examples of leftist lies. I'm not saying that all democrats never lie or anything like that by the way, i'm actually just curious.
By leftist, I mean the VERY crazy ones. 95% of them are stable, then out of the 5%, they have some issues. I live in a very liberal area and they never tell you both sides of the issue. The only reason I'm addressing the left part and not the right part is because of my background. They always want you to feel sympathy, when sometimes, the person doesn't deserve sympathy.
I know it doesn't qualify as a lie, I'm not sure why I worded it like that. Please forgive me.
02-10-2017 07:23 AM
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RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-10-2017 07:23 AM)The Unleasher Wrote:
(02-10-2017 06:31 AM)Geicosuave Wrote:
(02-10-2017 06:22 AM)The Unleasher Wrote: I don't want to be controlled by people who believe in leftist lies.
I don't want to be controlled by people who pretend to be tolerant, but they only are if you agree with their views.
I don't want to be controlled by people who have a fit every time something doesn't go their way.
I don't want to be controlled by people who make a racist or sexist issue out of nothing.
I don't want to be controlled by people who think forced acceptance equals respect.
I don't want to be controlled by people who believe I'm trying to runaway from my problems.
But that's just life, isn't it?
I'm genuinely curious, give some examples of leftist lies. I'm not saying that all democrats never lie or anything like that by the way, i'm actually just curious.
By leftist, I mean the VERY crazy ones. 95% of them are stable, then out of the 5%, they have some issues. I live in a very liberal area and they never tell you both sides of the issue. The only reason I'm addressing the left part and not the right part is because of my background. They always want you to feel sympathy, when sometimes, the person doesn't deserve sympathy.
I know it doesn't qualify as a lie, I'm not sure why I worded it like that. Please forgive me.
Okay, I think I'm just used to people criticizing LGBT+ stuff and all that. Sorry.
well would you look at the time its time to gay
02-10-2017 07:30 AM
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RE: I don't want to be controlled by people who...
(02-10-2017 06:22 AM)The Unleasher Wrote: I don't want to be controlled by people who think forced acceptance equals respect.
Who are you being forced to accept? Why do they not deserve to be accepted?
Respect is a tricky one because it can mean both "treat with basic human decency" and "hold in high regard, or at least pretend to" and people tend to conflate these.
Hello, traveler.
This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.
Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"
Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.
People are allowed to change their views.
Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.
If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
I have a slightly different version here;
I am not controlled by people who have emotional issues which they do not resolve and fight against even the notion of sanity.
I am not controlled by people who think it is okay to foist off their emotional baggage on others.
Well, I was controlled by them, but not anymore.
I am not obligated to accept any negativity or baggage others try to force on me.
I am not obligated to save others from their own stupidity.
I am not obligated to listen to people if I know that almost all everything they say is bullshit, hateful racist sexist (and many more -ist) crap.
I am not obligated to indulge people who wish me harm or do not respect my rights as a human being.
And many, many more.
Life gets 100% better once you hit 18, or 21. Depends on the laws of your land.
Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
-the Internet
Quote:May the days and months of flowing bitterness be rewarded...
To forget!?
Unforgivable!!
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