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Understanding my sister
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Understanding my sister

I've just had received intimidation, teasing and mockery from my sister, who probably didn't actually mean inside to say those things inside because simply put the have been told these things there whole entire life, but ended up literal teasing and mockery. Some people who don't know information well either can be inviting and accepting to conversation I was having a conversation with both of them on me wanting to drop out and pursue education, but she made a points on why I shouldn't drop out.

* My sister has gone thorough high school and it is expected of me to complete high school, me not completing high school is a sign that I am weak, those who not complete high school works mininum-wage jobs, therefore those who dropout of high school are weak, homeless, losers, and mere fringes on our society, because everyone goes to high school, therefore how could you possibly challenge our assumptions on schooling?

* I think for myself, that best way to combat such ignorance and intimidation. I usually go through the trying to rational, calm, and nice. I'm well know in my school for getting into arguments with teachers alot, but also super calm and rational about it.

*Also even though I am not physically bullied, I am emotionally bullied by other guys, even though they themselves are not intimidating, but a situation or a an eviorment makes them want to be dominant, aggressive, a manipulative emotionally breaking down kind of intelligence.

* Of course this kind of things makes people want to go to depression, anxiety, or wanting revenge on these people for being treated like inferior or downtrodden.

* How can I solve this? Well I can solve this by just being non-threatening, by not making snide remarks when someone makes a mockery out of you. Be overall a nice person and when someone makes a horrible comment, just be a nice person.


*This actually a good quote by John Lennon.
When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system’s game. The establishment will irritate you – pull your beard, flick your face – to make you fight. Because once they’ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don’t know how to handle is non-violence and humor.
John Lennon

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You could point out how many successful drop outs there are, then target the exact phrasing of the statements that "ALL" drop outs are weak failures.

Then ponder with intense curiosity why the all-holy HS education didn't teach critical thinking and objective analysis that avoided stupid generalized statements like a weak stupid idiotic loser. Aloud.

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I have only one thing to say to you. Lol. That is all.

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I'm a professional motivational speaker. I make people feel like crap so they'll enjoy my compliments.
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Well, you can either

1) Just find a new school. Look for a school that you would like, maybe a Tech School, Private School, Charter School, etc., etc.

2) Convince them that they are successful dropouts

What you really have to do is convince yourself that you're doing the right thing and you're not just dropping out to leave a few bullies behind, and you're leaving because you feel it's better in the long run. This whole situation really stands by you and what you believe in.
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I agree with Daryl here on the fact that there are successful dropouts. Another suggestion is to transfer to a trade school, which actually is useful for finding a career.

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Quote:I've just had received intimidation, teasing and mockery from my sister, who probably didn't actually mean inside to say those things inside because simply put the have been told these things there whole entire life, but ended up literal teasing and mockery.

I used to be in denial like this about my relatives for a long time too, but it took me a while to realize that nobody is holding a gun to my parent's head and forcing them to say *insert a lot of shit*. They were saying all that crap because they thought that it would do something good- nevermind that their good intentions are eventually going to lead to their ruin very soon. My parents don't regret an ounce of anything they said or did to me, and I hate them for it. While your ability to forgive your sister is amazing, don't delude yourself about her. It might just end up saving you a lot of pain.

If someone really regrets what they said/did, the regret and guilt is worthless unless they do something about it - preferably stopping the behaviour that hurt others and cause them to feel guilt/regret in the first place. Same thing with apologies, they are worthless if the person apologizing says sorry and does the same thing again and again.

I can see that you are kinda pacifist, but don't hesitate to clean the shit out of your life.


Quote:* I think for myself, that best way to combat such ignorance and intimidation. I usually go through the trying to rational, calm, and nice. I'm well know in my school for getting into arguments with teachers alot, but also super calm and rational about it.
That's a good idea. If you don't lose your cool you don't let them win or get some dirt on you, so to speak.


Quote:*Also even though I am not physically bullied, I am emotionally bullied by other guys, even though they themselves are not intimidating, but a situation or a an eviorment makes them want to be dominant, aggressive, a manipulative emotionally breaking down kind of intelligence.

I'd ask you not to make excuses for them...

Quote:* Of course this kind of things makes people want to go to depression, anxiety, or wanting revenge on these people for being treated like inferior or downtrodden.

Depression, anxiety and wanting revenge are normal reactions to being bullied or abused. I understand that you don't want to fall into those patterns, but that bit came off as a bit condescending. I know you didn't mean to sound like that, even though it sounded like "I won't be depressed/get anxious/want revenge because I'm too good for that crap."

Sorry I wasn't so helpful, but it helps a lot to get away from the people in your life who do nothing but pull you down at every opportunity. That's my answer.

Don't play chess with pigeons-they'll just knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut about like they won anyway.
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To forget!?

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Ugh... I know this kind of feeling. A lot of people hold high school to be some god-damn sacred establishment of mankind, and while I'm not against free education, the whole "you need HS for life" is freaking bullshit.

You could always point out that high school continues a bullshit "Darwinian" system of "survival of the fittest", which has been out of date since the early 20th century, when FDR took it down with shreds (although TBH, he criticized Hoover for doing too much; go figure). The fact that only some can survive shouldn't be part of your education, should it?

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