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Don't let your grades affect your self-esteem
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It's the same here - no homework, you fail.
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I hate how, when you enter higher classes, they are always "hurr durr you have more responsibility blabla", but then are like "herp derp, let's just check if everyfuckingbody did the homework".
If people are old enough for responsibility, they are old enough to decide on their own if they do homework or not

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(01-13-2012 04:36 AM)aCol Wrote:  If people are old enough for responsibility, they are old enough to decide on their own if they do homework or not
But that would be logical, and logic is against the schools' policy.

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Oh. Pardon me, I forgot.

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"Maybe your parents would be glad if you just left them out of your lives completely because they probably hate you and hate spending time dealing with you."

Righto.
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Well, I'll be reading this thread after school tomorrow. I'm probably going to fail a math test that's worth 12% of my mark, but IDGAF. I got to spend a great evening with my girlfriend, and bonds are more important to me than useless pig fodder that the wardens feed us at school. I'm lazy as fuck, but calculus will never apply to me after school is finished.

If you're reading this, I killed myself.
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(01-16-2012 02:39 AM)thefrustrated Wrote:  "Maybe your parents would be glad if you just left them out of your lives completely because they probably hate you and hate spending time dealing with you."

Righto.

I've always observed how people act with their children in public. If I understand what hate is, then there's no question that most people hate their children. They probably all got pregnant by accident and were pressured into keeping the baby.

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I just wrote a paper on how school should not be mandated by a government to increase educational success and this site was extrememly helpful. I always thought that I was the only one against school, but not against education. I truely love learning, and love the idea of school, but it just doesn't work for me and I could never figure out why. I've always wanted to be a teacher too, but I just hate school, but now I realize I can have hope to teach others with out having to conform to the methods of public schooling.
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(01-20-2012 01:48 PM)Alday4 Wrote:  I just wrote a paper on how school should not be mandated by a government to increase educational success and this site was extrememly helpful. I always thought that I was the only one against school, but not against education. I truely love learning, and love the idea of school, but it just doesn't work for me and I could never figure out why. I've always wanted to be a teacher too, but I just hate school, but now I realize I can have hope to teach others with out having to conform to the methods of public schooling.

Oh. That's good.

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I definitely felt that way in 10th grade. I failed my spanish 2 class I hated so much, that was taught by a guy who couldn't even correctly pronounce anything he was teaching. I hated the class and fell so behind in school work that it drove me nuts with anxiety. I failed the class and had to redo it this year. But throughout my 10th grade year I started to feel increasingly shitty because 1. Bad grades in spanish and 2. getting good grades in classes I didn't even learn anything from. I actually felt profoundly guilty for getting high grades and not giving a shit about class. For getting high grades with minimal effort. It's easier to pull off in online school, trust me. Now I'm a junior in highschool and have the same feelings, but worse. I actually hate math to the point where I fear doing it because I don't understand it and don't learn the way they teach math to us. Now, when I try to do the homework and spend lots of time on it, only to get a failing grade... It really does something to your self esteem and confidence. I don't think I've ever felt so stupid, depressed, and anxious in my entire life. Not to mention state standardized tests (no child left behind), the looming thought of SATs, and having additional tests we have to do ever 2 months in order to check our 'progress'. A lot of anxiety provoking stuff. It's sad that I hate school and that's it's really done a number on my self esteem, but it has. I wish we were taught not to take 'failures' with grades and such so seriously to the point where it chips away at our self esteem.
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(01-17-2012 05:03 AM)Prince Rilian Wrote:  I've always observed how people act with their children in public. If I understand what hate is, then there's no question that most people hate their children.

Wow, generalization of the century right there.
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grades are one fucking psychological torture
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Just failed a math test pretty badly and I feel like shit. I shouldn't care but it gets to me. Cuz my dad will see that I'm passing but get worked up about this one test. (my grades are visible online to my parents)
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one thing you should realize about grades: If you know already that you will get a bad grade, dont even try to do good. you will be yelled at by mom the same amount. i remember for marking period 1, i failed just 1 class, and just barely passed all the rest. mom was furious. the next marking period, i failed everything. just as furious, and she begged me to pass all classes next time, she would give me money. I got Cs and a B, next, and she was still pissed off this time, and she didnt give me the money! what bitches parents can be!!!!!
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Liars need their pants on fire.,

Congratulations humanity,because you refuse to let go of the old and evolve you actually make people believe in 2012. Not only that, but you're the only species on Earth that were able to make it possible, now we get to sit until we die because we couldn't get to Mars. We have failed as a society and don't deserve our gifts to survive for this long. Maybe this is why dinosaurs are extinct, we sure aren't any better than the dirt you say we're created from. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...DvwSOFto#! Noo

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I've stopped telling myself that I'm smarter then people in my class, since I only learn what I actually find interesting, and most times all the studying before a test makes me mentally exhausted because of all the forced educating! :@
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Hey Prince Rilian! I go to the first year at high school and a couple a weeks ago my teacher was threatening me with a remark because I was visiting a wiki page on my PC instead of her recommended recommendations. So I wasn't really paying attention to my teacher appearing and just kept on reading about that chemistry question and suddenly. Suddenly she was standing behind me saying "Hey! Do you want me to give you a remark because you're visiting stuff which isn't allowed". I remember I froze and my self-esteem pooped like Bloons - NinjaKiwi. And I was in a group which made it kinda worse, but still I remember arguing with her because it was related to school stuff. However, she's not my (nicely said) favorite teacher...
I'm promising you that next time she sneaks up upon me like that I'm gonna say "HEY BITCH, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS" No just joking. I guess I'm gonna sit there like frozen not say a word and keep on reading, and when she tries nudging me I'll just say "what is it". IS there a problem? And lastly, I'm gonna (if she threatens me I'll say Hey, do you think I care. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH, please, depart from me, your not beneficially influencing my time.

HELL YEAH!!!! Biggrin Biggrin Biggrin
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^ yes, do that! Biggrin Biggrin Biggrin and share her reaction.
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I really needed to read this today. I just got my report card back and I have a C in Algebra I. C is not even a bad grade and I still feel like shit. I skipped a whole year's worth of math so I should be happy that I even passed
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(10-18-2012 12:08 PM)foolycooly Wrote:  I really needed to read this today. I just got my report card back and I have a C in Algebra I. C is not even a bad grade and I still feel like shit. I skipped a whole year's worth of math so I should be happy that I even passed

In elementary I had a B in math, and I struggled. Spent one hour ++ each day and B was my result. I was quite satisfied with my grade. Now however...
I go to first year in High School and first test arrives, still struggling I get a C. Now look at the contrasts, you skipped a whole year worth of math, and you rocked that test hard. Your a potential genius! Wink

I, unfortunately become worried because of my grades and maybe that's a good thing. I'm not sure but, it makes me at least keep control of stuff. I guess it doesn't bother me that much yet, still it can be quite tragic to feel shitty, when you actually dont care about a certain grade. :(
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(10-18-2012 12:08 PM)foolycooly Wrote:  I really needed to read this today. I just got my report card back and I have a C in Algebra I. C is not even a bad grade and I still feel like shit. I skipped a whole year's worth of math so I should be happy that I even passed

YEs! By the way, if you want to share, what did you have before? Which grade?
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I agree with you on that SoulRiser. I was pointing out that with the very little effort he put into the math test, while I gave many hundred hours. His results were 100 times better then mine. That way his brain is E=mc2. Hehe jokiing! Biggrin
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I guess most people know that :S
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lol i could care less about grades
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I dont give a flying fuck about grades now that moms in jail. Before she was, I had to or else...
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I would do that, but my parents would legitimately take away my computer, phone, TV, and drawing pad, make me do nothing but the hardest jobs they can find, and maybe put me in a mental hospital for a while. I'm not kidding.

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(12-02-2012 09:00 AM)HeartoftheNorth Wrote:  I would do that, but my parents would legitimately take away my computer, phone, TV, and drawing pad, make me do nothing but the hardest jobs they can find, and maybe put me in a mental hospital for a while. I'm not kidding.
Yeah, kinda understand. Mom would tie me up so she could beat me hard and then either try to drown me in a sink or suffocate me in a trash bag when I did bad. Thing is, everything I did she considerd bad, same punishment for A and F, so I just got the F. And besides, she is in jail now for abuseing me and goin after me with a gun and i live alone (I am only 14, but this is highland park detroit, practically anything slides here). So now I dont have to try in school. Evil
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