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Kill thousands to save millions

If if came down to it (Such as if there was a major war, pandemic, alien invasion, etc) would you do it?

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RE: Kill thousands to save millions

I would do it. From pretty much any moral point of view it would be acceptable.
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RE: Kill thousands to save millions

Yeah with just that knowledge it is acceptable. Sucks but the most logical and moral choice.

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RE: Kill thousands to save millions

Depends on the scenario.

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RE: Kill thousands to save millions

"Such as if there was a major war, pandemic, alien invasion, etc"

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RE: Kill thousands to save millions

boring derchin.
Too straight forward, obvious and morally acceptable.

I'll add on if you don't mind Derchin.
Make the thousands who die kids who we all have to talk too and get to know before we make the decision.
Even then still a bit boring.

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RE: Kill thousands to save millions

(05-20-2012 03:04 PM)Derchin Wrote:  "Such as if there was a major war, pandemic, alien invasion, etc"

That is the broadest scenario you can possibly say.
So I will not answer.

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50 thousand people become infected with a virus which will turn them into immortal killing machines if they are not killed in the first 3 years of getting the virus.
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(05-21-2012 12:28 AM)fish20 Wrote:  50 thousand people become infected with a virus which will turn them into immortal killing machines if they are not killed in the first 3 years of getting the virus.
Qurantine them and find a cure.
Next please?

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(05-21-2012 12:30 AM)Efs Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 12:28 AM)fish20 Wrote:  50 thousand people become infected with a virus which will turn them into immortal killing machines if they are not killed in the first 3 years of getting the virus.
Qurantine them and find a cure.
Next please?
There is no cure
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(05-21-2012 12:30 AM)fish20 Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 12:30 AM)Efs Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 12:28 AM)fish20 Wrote:  50 thousand people become infected with a virus which will turn them into immortal killing machines if they are not killed in the first 3 years of getting the virus.
Qurantine them and find a cure.
Next please?
There is no cure
We tag the infected and let them live. And then in the final month we collect all the infected and seperate them from the rest and they live their lives as test subjects in high security labs.

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But they are immortal and there's a chance they will one day find a way out and destroy everything.
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(05-21-2012 12:48 AM)fish20 Wrote:  But they are immortal and there's a chance they will one day find a way out and destroy everything.
Immortal as in unable to die from aging, right?
You never said they were superhuman or anything. They're just normal humans who have the urge to kill and can't die naturally. So it wouldn't be hard to contain them.
Otherwise, we kill them the moment before the infection is at it's peak.

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(05-20-2012 04:19 PM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  boring derchin.
Too straight forward, obvious and morally acceptable.

I'll add on if you don't mind Derchin.
Make the thousands who die kids who we all have to talk too and get to know before we make the decision.
Even then still a bit boring.

Should've been more detailed, but I didn't feel like it.

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Since the world is over populated I would rather kill millions to save thousands.

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(05-21-2012 01:11 AM)TheCancer Wrote:  rather kill millions to save thousands.

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I would prefer to kill millions to save thousands. The world is overpopulated enough, I don't want to be responsible for letting it stay that way.

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I would do it.
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Lol Everyone thinks this is ok until they realize this was the rationale behind the atomic bombs being dropped in Japan.
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(05-21-2012 06:55 AM)Aya Wrote:  Lol Everyone thinks this is ok until they realize this was the rationale behind the atomic bombs being dropped in Japan.

+1... Plus Donnie, I don't think the world is actually overpopulated; I think that's a media-gobbled myth based on that concrete commandment thing in one of those country things. Thing. You know what I'm talking about? Anyway, I'd like to know why you do personally. What is this opinion based on?

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(05-21-2012 06:55 AM)Aya Wrote:  Lol Everyone thinks this is ok until they realize this was the rationale behind the atomic bombs being dropped in Japan.

doing it for teh lulz.
Don't really care about saving anybody.

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I'd just leave 'em alone and try to prevent both from killing as many as possible. Killing should be a last resort, in this case it doesn't sound like it is.

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(05-21-2012 06:55 AM)Aya Wrote:  Lol Everyone thinks this is ok until they realize this was the rationale behind the atomic bombs being dropped in Japan.

I would still support the A bomb over a ground invasion. Sure they were civilians but the ones at the center of it died immediately, and while there are all the burns, rad poisonings, broken body parts and other things to consider with those that didn't die in the initial attack. I think in the grand scheme of things more lives were saved that way and less pain was experienced over all. I'm not sure how much you know about WWII pacific fighting but it was some of the worse shit ever. On par with the trench warfare of WWI. Makes Vietnam look like a summer vacation.
Many people also think the early use of it also helped prevent the cold war from materializing into anything other than a mexican standoff.
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(05-21-2012 04:49 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 01:11 AM)TheCancer Wrote:  rather kill millions to save thousands.

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I don't get it.

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Me either
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Same.

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(05-21-2012 07:56 AM)FarBeyondDriven Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 06:55 AM)Aya Wrote:  Lol Everyone thinks this is ok until they realize this was the rationale behind the atomic bombs being dropped in Japan.

+1... Plus Donnie, I don't think the world is actually overpopulated; I think that's a media-gobbled myth based on that concrete commandment thing in one of those country things. Thing. You know what I'm talking about? Anyway, I'd like to know why you do personally. What is this opinion based on?

Not +1.

The atomic bombs could have easily been dropped on military bases. Limiting the unnecessary killing of unarmed civilians. It would have been a show of, "stop now or we fuck your shit up." If Japan refused to back down after that, then I would accept a civilian city bombing.

The world is overpopulated in poor countries mainly. Generally because of ignorance.

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(05-21-2012 02:38 PM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 07:56 AM)FarBeyondDriven Wrote:  
(05-21-2012 06:55 AM)Aya Wrote:  Lol Everyone thinks this is ok until they realize this was the rationale behind the atomic bombs being dropped in Japan.

+1... Plus Donnie, I don't think the world is actually overpopulated; I think that's a media-gobbled myth based on that concrete commandment thing in one of those country things. Thing. You know what I'm talking about? Anyway, I'd like to know why you do personally. What is this opinion based on?

Not +1.

The atomic bombs could have easily been dropped on military bases. Limiting the unnecessary killing of unarmed civilians. It would have been a show of, "stop now or we fuck your shit up." If Japan refused to back down after that, then I would accept a civilian city bombing.

The world is overpopulated in poor countries mainly. Generally because of ignorance.

I just don't agree with killing innocent civilians/attacking civilized areas because a war is going on between one country (i.e. government) and another. Ideally, that kind of stuff would stay between the political and otherwise parties involved. Realistically though, that'll never happen, since the public is treated as cattle owned over/pawn.

I agree that poor countries are overpopulated, considering general lack of resource (e.g. nutrition) available for their survival and such.

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Quote:The world is overpopulated in poor countries mainly. Generally because of ignorance.

America is repulsively overpopulated and the people having the most babies are the most repulsive people.

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(05-21-2012 10:00 PM)TheCancer Wrote:  
Quote:The world is overpopulated in poor countries mainly. Generally because of ignorance.

America is repulsively overpopulated and the people having the most babies are the most repulsive people.

How is America overpopulated...?

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