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Quote:A Sri Lankan woman is currently facing decapitation by sword on a witchcraft charge in Saudi Arabia, in accordance with Wahhabism, a strict form of Sunni Islam. The UN reports executions tripled in the kingdom in 2011.
A Saudi man complained that in a shopping mall his 13-year-old daughter “suddenly started acting in an abnormal way, which happened after she came close to the Sri Lankan woman,” reports the daily Okaz.
After the local man denounced the Sri Lankan for casting a spell on his daughter, police in the port city of Jeddah found it sufficient cause to arrest the woman.
Witchcraft and sorcery imply only one measure in Saudi Arabia – beheading. And it works this way in practice: last year in the kingdom at least two people – a woman in her 60s and a Sudanese man – were beheaded on witchcraft charges.
In the absolute monarchy that Saudi Arabia is, a criminal code does not exist per se. Court sentences are based on Islamic Sharia law on the interpretation of judges.
No sticking your neck out under Sharia law
Capital punishment is applied regularly and indiscriminately to locals and foreign citizens.
According to Sharia law, crimes that imply capital punishment are numerous. It could be anything from murder and terrorism to apostasy, idolatry and blasphemy.
Still, Sharia law leaves a loophole for those who have money. In the case of murder, the “eye for an eye” principle of Islamic law allows capital punishment to be replaced with Diyya (“Blood money”) ransom paid by the family of the killer – if the bereaved family agrees.
In oil-rich Saudi Arabia, the number of wealthy citizens is off the chart and the sum of Diyya could reach millions of dollars. But for those millions of guest workers who do most of the work in Saudi Arabia, this is definitely not an option. In case they are found guilty of a capital crime, execution by beheading is the only option left to them under Sharia law.
The beheading of Indonesian national Ruyati binti Sapubi in 2011 sparked a widely-discussed scandal. The 54-year-old woman, who worked as a maid, was sentenced to death after she confessed of murdering her employer with a kitchen knife after suffering abuse.
With about 1.5 million Indonesians working in Saudi Arabia, many of them as maids, the ruling caused an outcry in Indonesia, which even considered banning its women from working in the kingdom. After the Saudi Arabian ambassador officially apologized for the incident, the initiative was left in oblivion.
The cases of mistreatment of maids, who came in waves to Saudi Arabia in the recent past, received a different attitude of national justice. In April 2011, a Saudi woman convicted of torturing her Indonesian maid successfully had her conviction quashed on appeal.
In January 2012 the United Nations human rights office expressed concern with increased number of executions in Saudi Arabia. Compared to 2010 when 26 people got capital punishment rulings for various crimes, in 2011 there have been 76 executions in the kingdom.
Among the beheaded were at least three women and 11 foreigners.
(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
04-21-2012 03:53 PM
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(04-21-2012 05:20 PM)Fish20 Wrote: Saudi Arabia is so backwards, its like they are in 2012 BC instead of AD.
They're a disgrace to man-kind, and even Islam. I don't know how their people can live in their corrupt system.
witchcraft is real. i have seen people under a spell with my own eyes and the proccess of being cure. the jinn (spirits or ghosts (there is no equivalent word for it in english)) they have talked from inside a human body. the action of witchcraft is a grave sin.
Witchcraft is the action of contacting the jinn and asking them to do bad things to others or to give them honour and power, and in return the human has to do disgusting things like write Koran with a woman's menstrual blood,read Koran backwards etc.
it has so much bad affect.
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(04-21-2012 05:20 PM)Fish20 Wrote: Saudi Arabia is so backwards, its like they are in 2012 BC instead of AD.
They're a disgrace to man-kind, and even Islam. I don't know how their people can live in their corrupt system.
witchcraft is real. i have seen people under a spell with my own eyes and the proccess of being cure. the jinn (spirits or ghosts (there is no equivalent word for it in english)) they have talked from inside a human body. the action of witchcraft is a grave sin.
Witchcraft is the action of contacting the jinn and asking them to do bad things to others or to give them honour and power, and in return the human has to do disgusting things like write Koran with a woman's menstrual blood,read Koran backwards etc.
it has so much bad affect.
Gee, I sure wonder why Arab countries are pre-medival.
BTW: brotip: You must use real period blood from a virgin and/or gypsy tears. Cutting yourself won't do.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 11:15 AM by gore goroth.)
05-21-2012 11:12 AM
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(04-21-2012 05:20 PM)Fish20 Wrote: Saudi Arabia is so backwards, its like they are in 2012 BC instead of AD.
They're a disgrace to man-kind, and even Islam. I don't know how their people can live in their corrupt system.
witchcraft is real. i have seen people under a spell with my own eyes and the proccess of being cure. the jinn (spirits or ghosts (there is no equivalent word for it in english)) they have talked from inside a human body. the action of witchcraft is a grave sin.
Witchcraft is the action of contacting the jinn and asking them to do bad things to others or to give them honour and power, and in return the human has to do disgusting things like write Koran with a woman's menstrual blood,read Koran backwards etc.
it has so much bad affect.
That's bull. Elaborate as to why you think this way and what proof you have for doing so?
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(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 11:21 AM by FarBeyondDriven.)
(04-21-2012 05:20 PM)Fish20 Wrote: Saudi Arabia is so backwards, its like they are in 2012 BC instead of AD.
They're a disgrace to man-kind, and even Islam. I don't know how their people can live in their corrupt system.
witchcraft is real. i have seen people under a spell with my own eyes and the proccess of being cure. the jinn (spirits or ghosts (there is no equivalent word for it in english)) they have talked from inside a human body. the action of witchcraft is a grave sin.
Witchcraft is the action of contacting the jinn and asking them to do bad things to others or to give them honour and power, and in return the human has to do disgusting things like write Koran with a woman's menstrual blood,read Koran backwards etc.
it has so much bad affect.
wi
That's bull. Elaborate as to why you think this way and what proof you have for doing so?
why dont you try and find out about it on youtube.
(05-21-2012 12:01 PM)Slutty Nun Wrote: Everyone in Saudi Arabia should move somewhere else.
the saudi people love their ruler and the way he rules. his pictures.are everywhere.
stop attacking saudi arabia. if you dont like that.country who.cares the saudis dont wake up to impress you.
if u dont like saudi arabia dont go there. simple.
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(04-21-2012 11:37 PM)The Wrote: -raid their country
-destroy everything
-kill their leader(s)
-take their oil
-leave
It worked in Iraq, it'll work in Saudi Arabia
the saudi government has a strong defence force and they are very rich. rich enough to invade america. the saudis love their ruler. the government charges no tax to all people. saudi or not.
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(05-21-2012 12:01 PM)Slutty Nun Wrote: Everyone in Saudi Arabia should move somewhere else.
the saudi people love their ruler and the way he rules. his pictures.are everywhere.
stop attacking saudi arabia. if you dont like that.country who.cares the saudis dont wake up to impress you.
if u dont like saudi arabia dont go there. simple.
Look I can use.random periods. I belive witchcraft and. Think saudi arabia is a. Good country.
(05-21-2012 12:01 PM)Slutty Nun Wrote: Everyone in Saudi Arabia should move somewhere else.
the saudi people love their ruler and the way he rules. his pictures.are everywhere.
stop attacking saudi arabia. if you dont like that.country who.cares the saudis dont wake up to impress you.
if u dont like saudi arabia dont go there. simple.
Look I can use.random periods. I belive witchcraft and. Think saudi arabia is a. Good country.
(05-21-2012 02:11 PM)ihateteachers Wrote: the saudi people love their ruler and the way he rules. his pictures.are everywhere.
stop attacking saudi arabia. if you dont like that.country who.cares the saudis dont wake up to impress you.
if u dont like saudi arabia dont go there. simple.
You're an idiot. You really are. Many non-Nazi Germans (the public) "loved" and celebrated Hitler. Doesn't make what he did right. You don't seem to understand what death is. It is an end to life. When death is caused by someone else, that's murder. When death is caused by someone to someone else on the belief that they are a user of witchcraft, that is fallacy. The government is a bunch of people... you shouldn't form your opinions around what a bunch of people say. Especially when what they say is so ludicrous.
You're a human being, not a sheep... stop behaving like the latter. Freedom of speech is good. Freedom of opinion is good. Idiocy is not. Nobody said that the Saudi Arabians wake up to impress other countries' people. Just because the law over there permits such acts of stoning, beheading, etcetera supposed "evil-doers" as "fine" does not make it fine. What is fine and what is not is not a matter of opinion, but fact. Morality is a spectrum, of course, but it doesn't take a half-wit to understand how the OP is disgusting and inhumane... come on.
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(This post was last modified: 05-21-2012 09:34 PM by FarBeyondDriven.)
(05-21-2012 02:11 PM)ihateteachers Wrote: the saudi people love their ruler and the way he rules. his pictures.are everywhere.
stop attacking saudi arabia. if you dont like that.country who.cares the saudis dont wake up to impress you.
if u dont like saudi arabia dont go there. simple.
You're an idiot. You really are. Many non-Nazi Germans (the public) "loved" and celebrated Hitler. Doesn't make what he did right. You don't seem to understand what death is. It is an end to life. When death is caused by someone else, that's murder. When death is caused by someone to someone else on the belief that they are a user of witchcraft, that is fallacy. The government is a bunch of people... you shouldn't form your opinions around what a bunch of people say. Especially when what they say is so ludicrous.
You're a human being, not a sheep... stop behaving like the latter. Freedom of speech is good. Freedom of opinion is good. Idiocy is not. Nobody said that the Saudi Arabians wake up to impress other countries' people. Just because the law over there permits such acts of stoning, beheading, etcetera supposed "evil-doers" as "fine" does not make it fine. What is fine and what is not is not a matter of opinion, but fact. Morality is a spectrum, of course, but it doesn't take a half-wit to understand how the OP is disgusting and inhumane... come on.
i am muslim and in our religion the punishment for witchcraft is to be beheaded. the country implements islamic law.
eg you can leave your market stall open [and unattended] and be sure that no one will steal anything. that happens everyday.
saudi arabia is very strict on crime.
uk- 2nd highest crime rate in europe
us - has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents
saudi- 78,737 crimes recorded in Saudi Arabia last year
(04-21-2012 05:20 PM)Fish20 Wrote: Saudi Arabia is so backwards, its like they are in 2012 BC instead of AD.
They're a disgrace to man-kind, and even Islam. I don't know how their people can live in their corrupt system.
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE , EFS YOU BASTARD. ITS THE ISLAMIC LAW TO BEHEAD ANYONE WHO COMMITS WICHCRAFT.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM APART FROM THE CRAPPY STUFF SKOOL TEACHES YOU. YOU FUCKIN BITCHY BASTARD.
(05-21-2012 02:11 PM)ihateteachers Wrote: the saudi people love their ruler and the way he rules. his pictures.are everywhere.
stop attacking saudi arabia. if you dont like that.country who.cares the saudis dont wake up to impress you.
if u dont like saudi arabia dont go there. simple.
You're an idiot. You really are. Many non-Nazi Germans (the public) "loved" and celebrated Hitler. Doesn't make what he did right. You don't seem to understand what death is. It is an end to life. When death is caused by someone else, that's murder. When death is caused by someone to someone else on the belief that they are a user of witchcraft, that is fallacy. The government is a bunch of people... you shouldn't form your opinions around what a bunch of people say. Especially when what they say is so ludicrous.
You're a human being, not a sheep... stop behaving like the latter. Freedom of speech is good. Freedom of opinion is good. Idiocy is not. Nobody said that the Saudi Arabians wake up to impress other countries' people. Just because the law over there permits such acts of stoning, beheading, etcetera supposed "evil-doers" as "fine" does not make it fine. What is fine and what is not is not a matter of opinion, but fact. Morality is a spectrum, of course, but it doesn't take a half-wit to understand how the OP is disgusting and inhumane... come on.
SO USING YOUR IDEOLLAGY ANYONE WHO TAKES A LIFE IS A MURDERER, THAT MEANS SOLDIERS AND ANYONE ELSE KILLS! YOU ARE SO STUPID
(04-21-2012 05:20 PM)Fish20 Wrote: Saudi Arabia is so backwards, its like they are in 2012 BC instead of AD.
They're a disgrace to man-kind, and even Islam. I don't know how their people can live in their corrupt system.
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE , EFS YOU BASTARD. ITS THE ISLAMIC LAW TO BEHEAD ANYONE WHO COMMITS WICHCRAFT.
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM APART FROM THE CRAPPY STUFF SKOOL TEACHES YOU. YOU FUCKIN BITCHY BASTARD.
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