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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
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Why do people just accept authority? This is usually in the form of the government, but you see it every day in different situations. One group or group of people taking control over another.
Why does anyone have the right to know more than I do about my own life? How does anyone have the right to make your choices? We pay people we've never meant money to go to causes we've never even heard of.
This is just one of those things I used to not even question. There's a government, they know what's best for you, listen to them. But then recently I started thinking about it...and it just sort of makes me say what the fuck? How did this even happen? How are there so many of us and so few of them yet we still just put up with it? We are getting bills like CISPA by a government that claims to do what's in the best interest of the people. Also, laws? What? Who are these people to tell me what I can and can't do? my rights should end where yours begin, as I've heard many times on SS.
But basically, because of government, we're billions of dollars in debt, in multiple wars most people would rather not be in, have lots of laws we don't even remotely want any form of, there's just so many things the government does that we do not want and yet we do nothing. We continue to accept that a large group of people we've never met have the right to control us, to (imo) brainwash people through the media and other means, invade other countries using our resources, have a nationwide group of law enforcers that pretty regularly abuse their power, we have the god damn TSA, weed is illegal for no good reason.
So, my main point of this thread is to say I'm now officially an anarchist. After reviewing different forms of government, I've come to the conclusion governments almost always decline and eventually start to be a sort of parasite on the people.
No, this is Patrick.
04-05-2012 04:20 AM
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>Didn't surrender my phone to dickhead substitute teacher
>Felt like an anarchist
Balls of Steel:
Hidden stuff:
(01-13-2012 10:37 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: Mike you deserve an SS medal. Here, be proud:
Congrats for doing something I never had the balls to do.
If you have kids, save them from the bullshit you are forced to go through.
(01-25-2012 05:36 AM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: Balls of steel re-awarded.
(02-07-2012 03:22 PM)flann Wrote: Balls of Tungsten, now.
(04-05-2012 06:09 AM)HeartofShadows Wrote: Not an anarchist but I pretty much agree.
Why should another flawed being have some god like given rule over others.
In the words of Gerald from the witcher when asked how he felt on a king and royalty's rule.
"Take away their crown and put a sword to their throat and their just like us."
(04-06-2012 06:51 AM)gore goroth Wrote: Our number 1 cynic and critic of the U.S. government is not an Anarchist??? Dissappoint.jpg
Sorry to disappoint.
HoS is not an anarchist because he wants to be dictator of the world and control his pawns for his amusement.
Nope.
I understand that with anarchy is that a government is inevitable and a society done right isn't so bad.
Be honest though I'm a bit of a tribal at heart but hey I don't know..
^^
True that a minarchy isn't so bad. Minarchys will always lead to bigger and bigger government as time passes. Now formation of the state in the first place is not inevitable. How? The key is principle. People have to learn to control their own lives and not accept such a monopoly on violence.
Even the smallest governments must be able to steal from people and kill people to exist. And if the government can break a couple moral rules, what is there to stop them from getting bigger and breaking more?
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(04-06-2012 10:31 AM)gore goroth Wrote: True that a minarchy isn't so bad. Minarchys will always lead to bigger and bigger government as time passes. Now formation of the state in the first place is not inevitable. How? The key is principle. People have to learn to control their own lives and not accept such a monopoly on violence.
It's not a matter of people controlling their own lives. We've established that most people are perfectly capable of, at least halfway, taking care of themselves. It's just when you factor other people into the equation that it become a bit messy.
First off, the practical application of anarchist principles to modern society would be a veritable nightmare. Let's assume that you are able to overthrow the existing world authorities (a highly improbably scenario). How will one impose anarchy when anarchy is inherently unimposable?
Second, after anarchy is established, what will prevent voluntary organizations from evolving (or devolving, depending on your philosophical bent) into coercive, governmental organizations. Even American Indian tribes weren't exactly anarchy. Even Medieval Iceland had a government, per se (as much as anarchists like to cite it as anarchy).
I could go on...
Quote:Even the smallest governments must be able to steal from people and kill people to exist. And if the government can break a couple moral rules, what is there to stop them from getting bigger and breaking more?
A government doesn't have to kill people, only steal. The killing can be replaced by non-lethal crowd control techniques, water boarding, and long prison sentences.
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(04-06-2012 12:47 PM)The Wrote: Fuck government. What are governments for anyway? Do they solve any problems that an "uncivilized" group couldn't? We did fine as hunter-gatherers.
(04-06-2012 01:16 PM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: You can't force an anarchy. It must be achieved through an intellectual revolution.... ie..... it won't happen anytime soon, but it is possible.
I am doubtful that you will be able to convince every human being on the planet that anarchy is a good idea... i.e., it won't happen ever.
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04-06-2012 01:21 PM
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(04-06-2012 01:16 PM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: You can't force an anarchy. It must be achieved through an intellectual revolution.... ie..... it won't happen anytime soon, but it is possible.
I am doubtful that you will be able to convince every human being on the planet that anarchy is a good idea... i.e., it won't happen ever.
Sure is downer in here.
Yup, it won't happen anytime soon or at least in the next couple years. Then again any kind of major change seems like a big pipedream right now.
04-06-2012 01:57 PM
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(04-06-2012 01:16 PM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: You can't force an anarchy. It must be achieved through an intellectual revolution.... ie..... it won't happen anytime soon, but it is possible.
I am doubtful that you will be able to convince every human being on the planet that anarchy is a good idea... i.e., it won't happen ever.
Every human being not required. Just a large enough group so they can maintain a society. i.e. can happen
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(04-06-2012 01:16 PM)UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote: You can't force an anarchy. It must be achieved through an intellectual revolution.... ie..... it won't happen anytime soon, but it is possible.
I am doubtful that you will be able to convince every human being on the planet that anarchy is a good idea... i.e., it won't happen ever.
Every human being not required. Just a large enough group so they can maintain a society. i.e. can happen
Nothing like anarchy in the morning.
I still feel that even a moderately sized minority could set up a government of some sort and impose it over, at least, a small land area. This would be easier than setting up a seccessionist government in a weak Third World nation because of the inherent freedom involved in an anarchist society.
I guess I'm an Anarchist but I would rather be a glorious dictator giving people the freedom heh.
Wes used to be anti capitalist?
Hahahaha, mate, I used to be a Neo Nazi.
(01-10-2012 02:15 PM)Maelstrom Wrote: Efs, your nihilism is beautiful.
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