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Hello from a teacher
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Re: Hello from a teacher

Vatman Wrote:We don't consider teachers to be the enemy so much as we see them as the workers of a failing system. The current school system as it stands has been made to educate the general public. General of course is the key word here, and don't think I wont twist it to prove my point. I most assuredly will.

People are general, and schools are most undoubtedly filled with people. But is a person general? I think not. Generally each person on this board consumes around 1700-2500 calories of food each day, but I doubt everyone eats the same thing. Strange examples aside: even if generally people are able to stand 4-6 hours of schooling per day. Is it really fair to assume that each one of them would do well in the same general program.

I know you as a special ed teacher has less say in the system then a circumsized raccoon would...but the mere fact that you work in a system that supports group think and by association discourages individuality... Makes you just as bad as a "General" simply following the Fuhrers orders. (I told you I would twist...I'm very honest about twisting.)

Nice. Clever word play. I like that.

Do you think there's any validity to the idea that perhaps I can make a positive change from the inside? I've thought about that, too. I don't absolve myself from that by saying 'Oh, I'm just a cog in the wheel'. Like I stated before, it concerns me that I may be causing harm just by being a part of the system of compulsory education.

I also hate 'group think' and I like to consider the several shades of truth in any idea. I used to teach high school reading which allowed for a stronger diversification of ideas. I feel like I was trying to fight group think not to encourage it. For the most part, the students I taught didn't have any sense of radicalism or original thought. I wasn't threatened by them challenging the status quo I was frightened by how willing they were to buy into it completely.

In another teaching situation, I had one male student of about 16 who dressed like a girl and one day he stomped on an American flag. I heard another teacher tell him the typical spiel about people dying for his rights and that flag and blah blah. Later, I again took him aside and told him I respect his opposition to harmful conformity. So what if I didn't want to be a part of the system? I wouldn't have been there to offer him another and obviously rare 'teacher' perspective. Maybe, I shouldn't be there. Maybe it's better for him to have something to fully rebel against instead of him thinking, 'well maybe not all teachers are that bad'. Maybe it's good for him to be fully angry but I don't want a world full of angry adolescents. I want things to really change. And what am I going to do if I'm not a teacher? I would probably be sweeping the floor in a mall or something. What good am I doing the world then? Really, what should I do? I have to live in this world as well. I have to pay my own way. I don't have a better plan. What do you think you'll being doing when you're in your forties? Will you still care as much as I do?

If you want to be a different fish, you've got to jump out of the school.


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12-06-2009 04:40 AM
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Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 01:08 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Specter - 12-06-2009, 01:09 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - psychopath - 12-06-2009, 01:09 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Pieman - 12-06-2009, 01:10 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Faby - 12-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 01:27 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 01:28 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Ceiling Cat - 12-06-2009, 01:58 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sunbourn - 12-06-2009, 02:40 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - MorikoMisa - 12-06-2009, 03:14 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 03:36 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Night - 12-06-2009, 03:40 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 03:41 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Night - 12-06-2009, 03:43 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - psychopath - 12-06-2009, 03:43 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Vatman - 12-06-2009, 03:52 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 03:53 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - psychopath - 12-06-2009, 04:07 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - xcriteria - 12-06-2009, 04:34 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Vatman - 12-06-2009, 04:35 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009 04:40 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - MorikoMisa - 12-06-2009, 06:02 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Hanny - 12-06-2009, 06:02 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Bob Dole - 12-06-2009, 06:07 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - SoulRiser - 12-06-2009, 07:27 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Loxor - 12-06-2009, 10:36 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - IllusoryDeath - 12-06-2009, 10:43 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Colin - 12-06-2009, 10:53 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - JW791 - 12-06-2009, 01:23 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 04:10 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 04:14 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - aerftghyjk - 12-07-2009, 05:17 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Amortisatie - 12-07-2009, 05:21 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-07-2009, 08:31 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Spot-ify - 12-07-2009, 09:27 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-07-2009, 12:55 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-07-2009, 01:18 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-07-2009, 01:32 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-07-2009, 01:37 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-07-2009, 01:50 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Pieman - 12-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-07-2009, 02:13 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-07-2009, 02:13 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-07-2009, 02:16 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-07-2009, 02:21 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-07-2009, 02:26 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-07-2009, 02:29 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - ~Mystery~ - 12-07-2009, 03:15 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Pieman - 12-07-2009, 08:00 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-07-2009, 08:57 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Pieman - 12-07-2009, 09:06 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-07-2009, 09:09 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Pieman - 12-07-2009, 09:19 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - IllusoryDeath - 12-08-2009, 12:11 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Colin - 12-08-2009, 03:28 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Loxor - 12-08-2009, 03:35 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - aaaaaaasd - 12-08-2009, 05:42 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - IllusoryDeath - 12-08-2009, 06:04 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Loxor - 12-08-2009, 07:25 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Elfy - 12-08-2009, 08:51 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Aviator - 12-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-08-2009, 10:52 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-08-2009, 12:13 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - trisomy-21 - 12-08-2009, 12:22 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Aviator - 12-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - trisomy-21 - 12-08-2009, 12:29 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - trisomy-21 - 12-08-2009, 12:30 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-08-2009, 12:39 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - psychopath - 12-08-2009, 07:48 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Ceiling Cat - 12-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-09-2009, 03:34 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - SoulRiser - 12-09-2009, 03:39 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Colin - 12-09-2009, 03:45 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Blaze_Glory - 12-09-2009, 06:08 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-09-2009, 06:10 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-09-2009, 06:19 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Spot-ify - 12-09-2009, 09:12 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Loxor - 12-09-2009, 09:13 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 12-09-2009, 09:20 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Night - 12-09-2009, 09:36 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - IllusoryDeath - 12-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 08:36 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 08:38 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-14-2009, 08:42 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 08:46 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-14-2009, 08:48 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 08:49 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-14-2009, 08:52 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 09:02 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-14-2009, 09:09 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 09:11 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-14-2009, 09:12 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Sociopath - 12-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-14-2009, 09:26 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - aaaaaaasd - 12-15-2009, 02:17 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - The Desert Fox - 12-15-2009, 09:12 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - CrayolaColours - 12-15-2009, 09:47 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Ceiling Cat - 12-15-2009, 09:50 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - Loxor - 12-15-2009, 11:24 AM
Re: Hello from a teacher - monkey - 12-19-2009, 04:16 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - ~Mystery~ - 12-19-2009, 05:58 PM
Re: Hello from a teacher - TheCancer - 01-09-2010, 11:00 PM

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