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Ceiling Cat Wrote:
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Ceiling Cat Wrote:Capitalism isn't even close to free market. Nothing that involves money, is.

Do you know the definition of a market?
Yes, it doesn't have to involve a currency with its value carefully controlled by the government, so the lowest people don't get too rich.

Then how come every nation that has embraced free-market ideology seen a reduction in poverty? South Korea did so, and they transformed from a war-torn impoverished nation to one of the most prosperous nations in the world. Need more examples? Sure: Germany, Japan, and Italy post WW2, Singapore, Hong Kong, Brazil, Poland, et cetera. I rather live in any of those places than in some stagnant, disease-ridden, agrarian village.

BTW: definition of a market:
Quote:A market is any one of a variety of different systems, institutions, procedures, social relations and infrastructures where by persons trade, and goods and services are exchanged, forming part of the economy. It is an arrangement that allows buyers and sellers to exchange things

Markets can be barter-based - but this limits progress and favours those in control of resources. Money eliminates this problem.

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New member here. - Akai - 06-15-2010, 03:17 AM
Re: New member here. - Sunbourn - 06-15-2010, 03:29 AM
Re: New member here. - Ceiling Cat - 06-15-2010, 03:33 AM
Re: New member here. - Faby - 06-15-2010, 03:34 AM
Re: New member here. - Ceiling Cat - 06-15-2010, 04:15 AM
Re: New member here. - Faby - 06-15-2010, 04:27 AM
Re: New member here. - Ceiling Cat - 06-15-2010, 05:04 AM
Re: New member here. - Swift - 06-15-2010, 06:02 AM
Re: New member here. - MorikoMisa - 06-15-2010, 07:11 AM
Re: New member here. - John Tuttle - 06-15-2010, 09:57 AM
Re: New member here. - Ceiling Cat - 06-15-2010, 02:42 PM
Re: New member here. - John Tuttle - 06-15-2010 03:48 PM

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