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I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

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Open Source Learning
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Open Source Learning

I had this idea:

Just like how school by its "wisdom" inflicts a curriculum on students, regardless of their interests, we should similarly make our communities our curriculum and learn whatever we can from everybody, even if we aren't interested. The discipline to listen to stuff you don't care about is difficult, but if we are on some level capable of tolerating it, should we not also do the same to our neighbors?

My idea was to go to my local mosque on saturdays after the noon prayer and afterwards organize these kinds of programs:

Somebody decides to present an idea, an opinion/theory, or a question to the group in attendence. a chairman is appointed to help keep the presentation on track and organize the endeavor. And basically we force ourselves to actively take an interest in the person presenting. the catch is this however, that each session would at some point switch to Q&A and the person, if its a question being presented, will be told ideas regarding the answer or how to begin pursuing the answer. It its a theory of some kind or an idea that it be criticized and analyzed and that we the audience would hold them accountable to honesty and reason.

For example, I would explain my frustration at the fact that Americans seem to be quite passionate about gardening, developing over generations a ton of heirloom varieties of vegetable, yet we as Muslims, even though our Prophet (saws) encouraged farming, don't even know what heirlooms are.

This sort of thing could easily be instituted anywhere people have a regular time-slot for assembly. I recently made the move to a Monday through Friday work schedule, so I am now a part of that privileged minority. But I think school is also Monday through Friday, so anybody young enough or privileged enough could do some weekend thing.

One of my ideas would be to phyically walk from one side of town to the other speculating, to peak curiosity, the unknown history and background of all the sites in town. Where did they come from? What are they doing? And maybe even go inside some building to see exactly what is going on in our town. I have very little clue honestly.

What does anybody else think?

(I'm super busy lately, but I really wanna read what everybody says whenever I get time to check back. I miss school survival)

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Open Source Learning - the Analogist - 05-05-2016 01:51 PM
RE: Open Source Learning - brainiac3397 - 05-06-2016, 02:18 PM
RE: Open Source Learning - the Analogist - 05-09-2016, 08:05 AM
RE: Open Source Learning - the Analogist - 06-13-2016, 07:38 AM
Open Source Learning - the Analogist - 07-27-2016, 12:56 PM
RE: Open Source Learning - the Analogist - 07-28-2016, 02:03 PM

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