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Why people do things they don't like.
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Why people do things they don't like.

Disclaimer: This will probably devolve into ranting, or at worse mindless babbling.

It baffles me to this day. Why do people do things they don't benefit from? More so, things that hurt them? I mean, I know we are supposed to give to other people, but we should never give if it will hurt ourselves (well, old person dying for a young person is often worth it imo). So, why do people do things they don't want to? That they gain very little from.

Best example is school. Many people get horribly bullied at school. Beaten up and picked on. So why don't they stop going to school? Physically it's not hard at all. So, it's psychological then. Psychologically hard. Why? I mean there could be that fact that they are your parents. You are inherently, by nature, inclined to trust them. They tell you to go to school, so you do. But what about when you realize they might be wrong? But wait. You already know they are wrong. You tell them you are bullied. They do everything they can to help, except the ever so obvious idea of taking you out of school, and homeschooling you.

What about refusing your parents? You might be scared that they will abandon you. Send you to boot camp or juvi maybe. Well that's a fear based reason, and I tell fear never leads to any good. Assuming you went through with it, and did end up in juvi...Well you could tough it out. You will gain huge amounts of self-discipline if you survive. So that's not really a negative. But, I guess this isn't about objectivity, but subjectivity? Yes, I would think so. So, the person might think it's a negative. They'd handle the situation badly. Now that makes me wonder, why are they in the frameset of that?

I guess it goes back to childhood. Before they even went to school. What was that like? I'm not sure. Maybe they saw their parents getting ordered by and obeying their parents. Maybe they witnessed their parents stuck in a struggle that is easy to escape, but their parents don't? So they emulate this behavior. They copy what their parents do. Maybe that's it... Hrm...

tl;dr version: Please don't post in this thread :D.

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07-28-2008 04:03 AM
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Why people do things they don't like. - liq3 - 07-28-2008 04:03 AM
Why people do things they don't like. - Ky - 03-10-2013, 11:24 AM

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