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I don't think I could. Marriage is a religious ceremony based on Christian ideology and the Victorian age when they actually listened to 'classical music' and the marriage song. So its fairly outdated.
promising to devote your whole life to one person is kinda big. no matter who they are, there is little that would make them any more special then the next to person. If I disagreed I would be speaking unfairly out of Bias. What if I were to meet new people? Would my wife yell at me for talking to a woman just because she was a woman?
People with trust issues or people who do it to follow society get really suckered into this marriage thing. People who have never read the Bible also get married.
I've been thinking about this because alot of people my age have this big fear "What If I NEVER get Married". So I guess the topic of marriage also gives people fear. Not to mention the feeling before the alter where you begin to regret everything.
I don't think I could marry unless the Chick was Uber Special and even so I think we'd be Compromising each others freedoms just because of a petty bias toward each other.
so what do yous peeps say?
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Marrige never appealed to me anyway. Ive seen one too many amrriges go badly wrong.
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03-30-2009 06:54 AM
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I don't think I'll ever marry. If you do meet somebody I love, I don't need a marriage to say I do, I can just be with her, and not have my freedoms restricted.
marriage is apart of culture that im not gonna particapate in.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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To me only an idiot would want to even desire the process of marriage as its just a hole that destroys relationships and limits freedom even further and then there's the scurge of having kids..
Are you sure you guys went to school? I mean, they have a thing called sex-ed in Australian schools.
But seriously, I don't want to get married, it's restrictive, and what happens if you want out? You get half your possessions taken away, whereas in a regular relationship it's "I own this, you own that". "I bought this, you bought that". "We bought this together, how 'bout we sell it out of fairness?" "Nah, you can have it, <insert remark=corny>"
How does it restrict your freedom? By keeping you from fucking other people behind your wife/husband's back? You shouldn't be doing that anyway.
I dunno, if I found the right person I wouldn't mind getting married.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
well if your married and the wife doesnt want you anymore she can take you to the cleaners in court.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:How does it restrict your freedom? By keeping you from fucking other people behind your wife/husband's back? You shouldn't be doing that anyway.
I dunno, if I found the right person I wouldn't mind getting married.
Your promising to spend Forever and Ever with that Person No Mater What.
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When love hit me, oh and it does know to deal sucker punches. Pow. I knew immediately that I would always love this person. I am not much of a fan of commitment or religion and yet...there is much to be said for the idea of having another half of yourself.
love hurts. its not my thing even though yea it does happen.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
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I'm a firm believer in unconditional love, which makes marriage look primitive and restrictive in comparison. If the people getting married really loved each other that much, there'd be no need whatsoever to promise to stay together. They just would - because they want to. What more do you need?
Something along the lines of polyamory is a more ideal situation, even if you don't find more than one person to be with, it's the thought that counts - letting people be free, and not thinking you have some kind of right to demand that they not look at/talk to/ hang out with/ go out with anyone else.
If people get married and then years later realize they're miserable together... there's no point whatsoever in staying together anyway just 'cause they promised they would. I don't think that's "noble" or "courageous"... it's cowardly. And mean. 'Cause they'd probably both be happier and better off if they split up.
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I remember telling a girl once that if she could find a person more compatible with her than me then by all means go right ahead.
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SoulRiser Wrote:I'm a firm believer in unconditional love, which makes marriage look primitive and restrictive in comparison. If the people getting married really loved each other that much, there'd be no need whatsoever to promise to stay together. They just would - because they want to. What more do you need?
I agree. It will more than likely never happen where I live, but if I do get married, I'll make sure to follow by that thing. Common sense pplz.
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Yeah, the hell with marriage. If I have a significant other in the future who asks if I wanted to get married, or if ANYONE asks, I will tell them the exact same words, "The hell with marriage", and if they want, explain.
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BaronVonStrangle Wrote:fox you should take everything mystery says with a pinch of salt
and by pinch of salt i actually mean you need to build a fucking salt processing plant so you have enough salt to dispell the bullshit
I'll nvr marry, just have lots & lotz of Girlfriends (and Boyfriends)
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look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
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Fuckthesystem Wrote:So...I think most of us are at an agreement here?
FUCK marriage.
Hm...Sure?
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Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
Mystery Wrote:Your promising to spend Forever and Ever with that Person No Mater What.
Well, yeah. If you really love someone then that should be a good thing.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
just cause you love them doesnt mean they love you. plus nothing lasts forever.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
Id rather not love someone than love them and not bew loved back.
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"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
Married women are high status prostitutes You pay them with a contract of security before they sex you.
the low status version is a hoe, whom you pay 300$ then and there and they sex you.
While open minded women who loves sex for the pleasures of sex and has the free will to do what makes her happy for free are seen as sluts by society .
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Women love sex. But they don't want to be outcasted by society, so they avoid things that make them slutty even though they want to. Its another form of tyranny in a different theatre of war.
So they pretend to be the socially accepted marrying types (High Class Prostitutes)
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If i were to find a woman that i truly felt i wanted to spend the rest of my life with, and if I were to loose her I would feel as if there were something missing at the end of the day. And if she felt the same way about me, I would want to do something, legal marriage or not, that promised both of us to stick it out through the hard times and rely on each other no matter what. Also marriage gives you some nice legal loopholes with your spouse.
Open your eyes, look within. Are you satisfied with the life your living? Bob Marley
I've fallen in love... and I identify with you on the symptoms with that "special" girl.
but after studying the psychology of how it happens its not as unique or unworldy as people make it out to be.
Also my view is also shared by Johnny Soporno who has loads of experience in this field. If you want to read it in its full context.
People act unaware that the human body is a walking pharmacy!~David Icke~ Religion was invented to keep the poor from harrasing the rich"~Napoleon Bonaparte~ Do As Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law!~The Secret Order of Thelema~ "Respect goes to those who do not want it" ~TrueAnarchist~ "The only limitations that a person has are those that are self-imposed."~Unknown!~ “Attraction is an emotion.” ~Dr. Alex~ “Life is an illusion albeit a very persistent one” ~Albert Einstein
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