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Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
So, who's been keeping up with the "Boo Hoo McCain Didn't Win Revolution" out there? All those relatively small (but exaggerated by Fox News) groups of conservatives who've taken to the streets in protest of taxes, calling Obama Hitler, saying that their people are being robbed, etc.
Some people are offended by them, others support them. Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think they're hilarious. For eight years they've had an administration that showed more respect for it's own shit-covered toilet paper than it did for the Constitutional rights of the American people (and had their own propaganda news channel that downplayed every peach march, saying all protestors were scum), and now the conservatives are still in shock that they aren't in control any more. Basically, it's a textbook case of "tyranny withdrawal." They got so used to living the high life up on Bush's throne that when they try to see how the other side lives, they end up making idiots of themselves.
For the first time in my life, I want to do something that I've never done before: offer some advice to the conservatives. I hate you guys, but I can't help but have a little pity now that you've come down to this.
Leave the protesting to the left. Liberals and subversives have over a hundred years' experiance, from the labor riots of the 1800s to the true revolution of the 60s. Frankly, you guys are noobs. Traditionally you are the Man and we are the punks in the streets, and when you try to make people think that those roles have been reversed, the entire fabric of the spacetime continuum becomes a hyper vortex that will kill us all. There's more to demonstrating than simply buying millions of teabags and then complaining about wasteful spending (!), you've got to have clear and coherant arguments that are simple enough to chant, but logical enough to hold up under a reporter's interview. It's just not your game. Sending out legions of guys in tri-cornered hats is all good and well, but when a local journalist asks them whether they think Obama is a socialist (far left) or a fascist (far right), and they reply "both," it's not exactly earning big points in the PR department. Most people just look you, say "aw, conservatives are so cute when they pretend like they're being oppressed," and keep voting Democrat because they don't want to align themselves with people who can't see irony when it comes up and fingers them in the ass.
Look, the most conservatives ever amounted to when it comes to grassroots movements was the KKK. Don't play the game if you can't play it right. I'm not saying that you guys have no place in demonstrations, that's not true at all. From what I've seen of those 1960s videos, the right can swing a mean baton into a hippie's face. They're also great shots, even with flowers stuck in the barrels of their guns. We're supposed to protest against whoever's harming the people, and you're supposed to march out in gas masks to beat the crap out of us. I mean, come on, the definition of "conservative" is someone who's opposed to social change. Next thing you know, conservatives will be freeing all those people who they sent to prison for smoking pot so that they can try to be the new hippies. It just doesn't work.
Good luck!
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
The Wadekarl Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:...offer some advice to the conservatives. I hate you guys...
:waah: :waah: Aw, come on, what have I ever done to you?
tyrrany and tears in one package :>_>:
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
Yeah, Ive seen them... and heard them.... and had to deal with parking shorteges because of them. The governer decided she wanted to have lunch at the culinary institute, so we had to put up with a bunch of pissed off dumbasses. This one dude had a big sign with a bowl of clam chowder on it and it said "Im steamed", shit was fucking funny.
Let it be known that you will not find me in the streets bitching over shit like this. While I may not be perticularly pleased with having to shell out extra geenbacks so the governement can continue to spend needed money on unneeded programs I do know that it is my duty to continue the support of my government. On the way in they actually stopped me to ask me to take arms with them and I told them that I will save myself from making a public mockery of myself and support my governemnt instead.
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This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
I can't wait until Obama screws America up to the point that it just collapses on itself. That way, I can go up to every Obama supporter I know, and shout, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" in all caps.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
BobManPerson Wrote:I can't wait until Obama screws America up to the point that it just collapses on itself. That way, I can go up to every Obama supporter I know, and shout, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" in all caps.
this
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
BobManPerson Wrote:I can't wait until Obama screws America up to the point that it just collapses on itself. That way, I can go up to every Obama supporter I know, and shout, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" in all caps.
I guess that's only fair. After all, we got to do it for Bush all the time.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:
BobManPerson Wrote:I can't wait until Obama screws America up to the point that it just collapses on itself. That way, I can go up to every Obama supporter I know, and shout, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" in all caps.
I guess that's only fair. After all, we got to do it for Bush all the time.
bush didnt cause america to fall tho
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
classclown Wrote:
Rebelnerd Wrote:
BobManPerson Wrote:I can't wait until Obama screws America up to the point that it just collapses on itself. That way, I can go up to every Obama supporter I know, and shout, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" in all caps.
I guess that's only fair. After all, we got to do it for Bush all the time.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
america is still working so no one yet
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
BobManPerson Wrote:I can't wait until Obama screws America up to the point that it just collapses on itself. That way, I can go up to every Obama supporter I know, and shout, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" in all caps.
this, definantly
Whilst some work diligently there are those who ask why. I am one of them
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Lifes a bitch, then you marry one
This has been a test of the emergency pointless argument system. Had this been a real pointless argument, someone would have been called a facist.
Ceiling Cat: For that you need to wear a fursuit, though.
Inside sources say that Carla Franklin has had more dick in her than a public urinal.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
I'm baffled by the number of anti-Obama sentiments, like he truly is the anti-christ. He isn't. I think the US government has a very long, long history of screwing things up (I was about to say f****** things up... are you allowed to swear on the forums?) but that doesn't mean we should consign Obama to the same fate. I think it's just because of mistrust about Bush that people automatically brand any president bad. Obama has already done a lot better than some presidents I could mention. He's a nice person and is clearly somewhat intelligent. Is he the next god? Well, no, this all remains to be seen but to assume Obama is going to destroy the country and to mercilessly attack him when he hasn't done anything yet is pretty stupid and is more of a gut reaction than anything else.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
Ah, conservatives are just throwing a tantrum because they don't get to torture and spy on people anymore. If people just ignore them, they'll cry themselves out sooner or later.
ps. yes, you damn well fucking are allowed to swear on these motherfucking forums.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
like every president since we've had the tech has spied on people. but yea torture is bullshit
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
The biggest problem I have with Obama these days is that he's not persecuting the CIA guys who were doing the torture because he wants to "make peace" with the remnants of the old administration. But if they're going to hate him anyway, why not just do it?
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
Rebelnerd Wrote:The biggest problem I have with Obama these days is that he's not persecuting the CIA guys who were doing the torture because he wants to "make peace" with the remnants of the old administration. But if they're going to hate him anyway, why not just do it?
...don't forget that he wants to dismiss one lawsuit dealing with warrantless wiretapping, because to could spill "state secrets". Whatever those are.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
obama has makin stupid lil gun laws too. like when you buy a hand gun you have to let them put a lock on it bring it to your car then bring the lock back. plus now with the practice shots they do in the millitary. instead of reuseing the brass they just melt it down.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
Death may be the greatest of all human blessings. -socrates-
Schooling us to prepare us for the career in need
Not caring about our interests and dreams to heed
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
First liberals protest while conservatives run the country, now conservatives are protesting and liberals are running the country. Soon the liberals will be kicking in your doors and taking your rights while the conservatives become the resistance. Interesting, the world's turning upside down.
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
kylemw13 Wrote:First liberals protest while conservatives run the country, now conservatives are protesting and liberals are running the country. Soon the liberals will be kicking in your doors and taking your rights while the conservatives become the resistance. Interesting, the world's turning upside down.
Umm, Obama is far from being Liberal
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
Is it a huge stretch to avoid using labels like left, right, liberal, conservative? That's an honest question because I don't know. Is it ever accurate?
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
obama is like a mixture of both. but he has the bad qualities of both.
life is just blah blah blah. we hope for blah, and sometimes we find it. but mostly its blah. and waiting for blah. and hoping you were right about the blahs you made. and when you think you just got the whole blah damn thing figured out, and your surrounded by the ones you blah. death shows up and blah blah blah.
-weeds-
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
Obama's pretty liberal, but he waters it down a bit because of his whole "bipartisanship" thing.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
Whether the president is conservative or liberal, the only people who get to run for president and represent parties are idiots who only care about the campaign at the beginning and who, when the get the office, can't handle the power.
Their energy is spent trying to please every single little subgroup of THEIR party.
I supported Obama, originally(because Sarah Palin scared me, and I couldn't respect a man who used the 'she's a woman' card to counter obama's 'I'm a black man' card...)
However, after that idiot 'bail out' policy along with the decisions he's been making,
(and I'm no a big politic studier or nothing, I'm just talking from what I'VE heard.)
After seeing Obama's stupid decisions, and only living with
A) Bill Clinton
or
B) George Bush
as president MY WHOLE LIFE,
I've lost my faith in presidents right now...
"Do we NEED a new president? We just got out of a fucked up relationship. Can't we go solo, maybe DATE a president for a while?
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Re: Teabaggin' Time: some advice for the conservatives
even worse, now they're making robots thatll shoot guns at u, luckily, u can just drop to the ground and shoot back, simple enough
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mangareadr Wrote:"Do we NEED a new president? We just got out of a fucked up relationship. Can't we go solo, maybe DATE a president for a while?
EPIC.
I think Buenaventura Durruti is a pretty cool guy. eh kills fascists and doesnt afraid of ruins. The quickest way to kill a revolution is to wait for it.
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Rebelnerd Wrote:
mangareadr Wrote:"Do we NEED a new president? We just got out of a fucked up relationship. Can't we go solo, maybe DATE a president for a while?
EPIC.
Katt Williams.
An it Harm None, Do What Ye Will
An it Harm, Do Only What Ye Must
Lighten up! This life was made for experimenting, making mistakes, falling on our faces, and standing up to do it all over again.
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Carla Franklin may be a whore. She may be a wonderful, kind, moral woman. Seeing as I don't know her personally, I cannot know for sure. However, I find her actions (suing Google, requesting the personal info of her critics, getting angry over random internet idiocy that she should ignore and be bigger than, trying to get this site in trouble because of a few users' commentary on the situation, etc.) pretty ridiculous and unwarranted. If she didn't want people to to be talking about/judging her, well 1. that's impossible, she's a human, and 2. she shouldn't have been a model or agreed to be on film. AND 3. she DEFINITELY shouldn't have sued Google and made all this fuss over a few random idiots whom she probably won't ever know expressing their opinion. Mmkay? MMKAY.
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