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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.
I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.
I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.
I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.
I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.
Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.
Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.
-SoulRiser
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If it is not already there. I could probably do it, but i don't know how.
Listen to the mustn'ts, child, Listen to the don'ts, Listen to the shouldn'ts, The impossibles, the won'ts, Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me. Anything can happen, child, anything can be. - Shel Silverstein
Hidden stuff:
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
Quote:I agree one hundred percent that schools are corrupt today and it warps natural creativity in children in point of fact. Children are persuaded and at times humiliated, intimidated to study and such mechanic ways of study mars their intuitive and congenital capacity for inventiveness through imagination. But we say through our conditioned minds this is called education and civilization, but at the bottom of it they become ruined-blazeofglory in Literacy Network
Quote:Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
Quote:Never depend upon institutions of government to solve any problem. All social movements are founded by, guided by, motivated and seen through by the passion of individuals.
"People have a hard time letting go of their suffering. Out of a fear of the unknown, they prefer suffering that is familiar."
Thich Nhat Han
pretty much one of my favorite quotes of all time.
An it Harm None, Do What Ye Will
An it Harm, Do Only What Ye Must
Lighten up! This life was made for experimenting, making mistakes, falling on our faces, and standing up to do it all over again.
Live for Learning.
Carla Franklin may be a whore. She may be a wonderful, kind, moral woman. Seeing as I don't know her personally, I cannot know for sure. However, I find her actions (suing Google, requesting the personal info of her critics, getting angry over random internet idiocy that she should ignore and be bigger than, trying to get this site in trouble because of a few users' commentary on the situation, etc.) pretty ridiculous and unwarranted. If she didn't want people to to be talking about/judging her, well 1. that's impossible, she's a human, and 2. she shouldn't have been a model or agreed to be on film. AND 3. she DEFINITELY shouldn't have sued Google and made all this fuss over a few random idiots whom she probably won't ever know expressing their opinion. Mmkay? MMKAY.
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
"Worst is a place of work where you are expected to be “creative” in implementing the imagery from above and where you are expected to celebrate this made-to-measure “creativity” of “advancement” and “success.” This workplace robs you of both your creativity and your outrage at being robed, thereby imbedding you into your own death while plasticizing a smile on your face."-Denis Rancourt
hewhodestroysall Wrote:Honestly I never figured the point of the esrb.
Point is you can't censor reality.
U.S. Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas, Tinker v. Des Moines (1969) Wrote:In our system, state-operated schools may not be enclaves of totalitarianism. School officials do not possess absolute authority over their students. Students in school as well as out of school are "persons" under our Constitution."
Rebelnerd Wrote:Human rights are being violated by US law enforcement. This is what the media is here for, you're supposed to be the watchdogs! You're supposed to stand up for the downtrodden, not belittle them as though all their problems amount to nothing more than some angry glares toward parents and sabotaging their computers.
I've seen so much shit done to youth and for some reason, this has made me angrier than I've felt in years. Abuse and oppression happens all over the world. It's a terrible reality of modern society, but we've all accepted that it happens and we're doing what we can to fight it and build a better world.
But this...this mindless, condescending disrespect toward people who have no legal voice with which to defend themselves, this reduction of parents' betrayal into a cheap crack about kids being computer-savvy...it's like watching a surgeon joke about life insurance while his patient bleeds to death on the operating table. The media's job is to protect society from oppression and they've drawn a clear line between the people worth protecting and the people that don't matter. How can they people sleep at night?
You're a journalist. DO. YOUR. FUCKING. JOB.
(04-28-2010 08:17 AM)Liquid Wrote: Laws never seem to help people fight School. Laws only matter if the students are braking them...
(12-03-2011 07:40 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: Solution to all these problems: don't fuck people you can't negotiate with in a civilized manner.
(02-09-2012 02:14 PM)Absentinsomniac Wrote: The only solution is democratic self-paced education where students can excel in what they are good at and work on what their not if necessary, AT THEIR OWN DAMN PACE IN THEIR OWN DAMN WAY.
Don't Board the Censor Ship
11-05-2009 05:32 AM
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Liquid
poison - do not drink
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Quote:Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
- Marianne Williamson
Quote:Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles
is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists
in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
- Sun Tzu
Quote:In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
- Sun Tzu
Quote:Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense
- Winston Churchill
Quote:We will either find a way, or make one
- Hannibal Barca
"All I can do is be me, whoever that is."
Bob Dylan
An it Harm None, Do What Ye Will
An it Harm, Do Only What Ye Must
Lighten up! This life was made for experimenting, making mistakes, falling on our faces, and standing up to do it all over again.
Live for Learning.
Carla Franklin may be a whore. She may be a wonderful, kind, moral woman. Seeing as I don't know her personally, I cannot know for sure. However, I find her actions (suing Google, requesting the personal info of her critics, getting angry over random internet idiocy that she should ignore and be bigger than, trying to get this site in trouble because of a few users' commentary on the situation, etc.) pretty ridiculous and unwarranted. If she didn't want people to to be talking about/judging her, well 1. that's impossible, she's a human, and 2. she shouldn't have been a model or agreed to be on film. AND 3. she DEFINITELY shouldn't have sued Google and made all this fuss over a few random idiots whom she probably won't ever know expressing their opinion. Mmkay? MMKAY.
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
People [including myself] get this all the time. "10 years down the road" as if life has ever been that certain. No matter what you do - what college majors you take - what lifestyle terms you choose - the future is always equally uncertain. That's not an excuse not to try for the best for yourself - but keep in mind - You can drop out and later become one of the richest people in the world [monetarily or otherwise] or you can go to law school and end up homeless - or vice versa. There's really no way to tell. Making decisions based on where you want to be 10 years from now is the wrong angle of approach to take.
Try to understand who you are, what you want, and how you want to get there - use that as your base criteria to develop ideas from. Take it from me - good ideas are often more important than just good choices. Ideas can open opportunities and solve multiple issues at the same time. They tend to open options that allow you to make choices where the choice previously didn't exist. If you only made good choices with the choices you are given, you won't go as far. However, good ideas must be inspired from proper understanding. Dropping out of compulsory school is one of many great ideas if orchestrated well and understood correctly.-David B who is a SS member. Look him up.
It takes much more courage and intelligence to face truth as it is, out in the world and inside oneself, without wishful thinking or preference based on a superficial view of reality.
StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:People [including myself] get this all the time. "10 years down the road" as if life has ever been that certain. No matter what you do - what college majors you take - what lifestyle terms you choose - the future is always equally uncertain. That's not an excuse not to try for the best for yourself - but keep in mind - You can drop out and later become one of the richest people in the world [monetarily or otherwise] or you can go to law school and end up homeless - or vice versa. There's really no way to tell. Making decisions based on where you want to be 10 years from now is the wrong angle of approach to take.
Try to understand who you are, what you want, and how you want to get there - use that as your base criteria to develop ideas from. Take it from me - good ideas are often more important than just good choices. Ideas can open opportunities and solve multiple issues at the same time. They tend to open options that allow you to make choices where the choice previously didn't exist. If you only made good choices with the choices you are given, you won't go as far. However, good ideas must be inspired from proper understanding. Dropping out of compulsory school is one of many great ideas if orchestrated well and understood correctly.-David B who is a SS member. Look him up.
This is a bit long, isn't it? To go on the sidebar.
Hidden stuff:
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
The Desert Fox Wrote:Can an admin let us know when they've been added, and which ones?
We heard you the first time.
When / if they are added, you will be informed.
Hidden stuff:
"A 'no' uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a 'yes' merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble." - Mahatma Gandhi
"The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it."
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-Ben Franklin
"when I was a kid I used to pray for a bicycle. then I realized that god doesn't work that way. so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness."
"I would rather die for something I believe in than live for anything else."
"What is the task of higher education? To make a man into a machine. What are the means employed? He is taught how to suffer being bored." – F W Nietzsche
Fucking this. If this doesn't get added I will be pissed.
Aaaayyyeeeee!
that actor and another one who played in 'happy days' were on a short commercial urging people to vote for Obama.
(I'll do the honors-) Fonzie Sucks!
Back on topic-
Quote:School is a conspiracy, man. Whenever someone figures out whats going on, BAM! They have "problems" and need to see the "counselor."
-me
Quote:BARACK OBAMA DOSEN'T CARE ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE!!
-also me
Hidden stuff:
TRIGGER WARNING: THIS TRIGGER WARNING CONTAINS TRIGGER WARNINGS!
Dear Tumblrites:Despite your wrongly self-diagnosedPTSD, no line ofscientific evidencesuggests people can be triggered over theinternet. Triggering works through thesenses(i.e. smell, taste, touch, vision, hearing.) but it goes throughreal time; if you're not experiencing it in real life as it'sACTUALLY HAPPENINGin yourACTUALlife, youCANNOTbe triggered. The only exception to this is if you have aseizure, but then again, that's triggered byepilepsy(i.e. rapidly-changing flashing lights)NOT PTSD. Remembering a bad incident is NOT the same thing as having aflashback. When you remember, youthink; when youflashback,youfeel.
#HashTagsAreForIdiots
Max Stirnir Wrote:"In the time of spirits thoughts grew till they overtopped my head, whose offspring they yet were; they hovered about me and convulsed me like fever-phantasies -- an awful power. The thoughts had become corporeal on their own account, were ghosts, e. g. God, Emperor, Pope, Fatherland, etc. If I destroy their corporeity, then I take them back into mine, and say: "I alone am corporeal." And now I take the world as what it is to me, as mine, as my property; I refer all to myself."The Ego and Its Own, pg. 15
Charles Manson Wrote:“Look down at me and you see a fool;
look up at me and you see a god;
look straight at me and you see yourself”
HeartofShadows Wrote:"Life is nothing more than a druggie trying to get their quick fix of happiness while dealing with the harsh withdrawal of reality"
Osip Mandelstam Wrote:"I divide all of world literature into authorized and unauthorized works. The former are all trash; the latter--stolen air. I want to spit in the face of every writer who first obtains permission and then writes."The Fourth Prose, 1930.
Lukas Foss Wrote:That is why the analogy of stealing does not work. With a thief, we want to know how much money he stole, and from whom. With the artist it is not how much he took and from whom, but what he did with it.
StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:People [including myself] get this all the time. "10 years down the road" as if life has ever been that certain. No matter what you do - what college majors you take - what lifestyle terms you choose - the future is always equally uncertain. That's not an excuse not to try for the best for yourself - but keep in mind - You can drop out and later become one of the richest people in the world [monetarily or otherwise] or you can go to law school and end up homeless - or vice versa. There's really no way to tell. Making decisions based on where you want to be 10 years from now is the wrong angle of approach to take.
Try to understand who you are, what you want, and how you want to get there - use that as your base criteria to develop ideas from. Take it from me - good ideas are often more important than just good choices. Ideas can open opportunities and solve multiple issues at the same time. They tend to open options that allow you to make choices where the choice previously didn't exist. If you only made good choices with the choices you are given, you won't go as far. However, good ideas must be inspired from proper understanding. Dropping out of compulsory school is one of many great ideas if orchestrated well and understood correctly.-David B who is a SS member. Look him up.
This is a bit long, isn't it? To go on the sidebar.
If people say public school is education and homeschool is education, then education is a place that can be clearly found everywhere due to the resources involved in the outside world and the digital world that can be used for learning purposes which is also known as educational purposes. There are resources just about everywhere from people's experience, libraries, experiencing to learn, internet, home with books and working area. There's no way to get out of education because of the definition of education would be the places of resources and these places are literally observed everywhere no matter where you go unless you have lack of learning area in your brain, then you wouldn't be able to have education by that terms ever and destructive rebels don't fit this definition as it is clearly seen they do have the knowledge of what to say and what could cause destruction. If you mean education as if it require the degree to be educated, then it wouldn't matter if they have the knowledge of many subjects to fit that term of being educated. In that case, then to have the education would require to have the degree itself and nothing else.-StylizedCarfan1
StylizedCarfan1 Wrote:If people say public school is education and homeschool is education, then education is a place that can be clearly found everywhere due to the resources involved in the outside world and the digital world that can be used for learning purposes which is also known as educational purposes. There are resources just about everywhere from people's experience, libraries, experiencing to learn, internet, home with books and working area. There's no way to get out of education because of the definition of education would be the places of resources and these places are literally observed everywhere no matter where you go unless you have lack of learning area in your brain, then you wouldn't be able to have education by that terms ever and destructive rebels don't fit this definition as it is clearly seen they do have the knowledge of what to say and what could cause destruction. If you mean education as if it require the degree to be educated, then it wouldn't matter if they have the knowledge of many subjects to fit that term of being educated. In that case, then to have the education would require to have the degree itself and nothing else.-StylizedCarfan1
Someone make a shorter version of this.
TL;DR, plox.
Hidden stuff:
(11-27-2011 01:00 PM)psychopath Wrote:
(11-27-2011 10:52 AM)Efs Wrote: Our Army is more professional than Amerika.
Except ours isn't allowed to have guns
CrayolaColours Wrote:That post owned. TDF wins post of the year.
Faby Wrote:
krissy Wrote:dessert fox
Mmm, flambéed vulpine.
"There is no enemy, there is no victory, only boys who lost their lives in the sand."
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