Should Ipads be used in schools?

[fish20]

Shoulld Ipads be brought to schools?


Pros
-The school could place all the students school books in the Ipad, which means the school won't have to buy many expensive books.
-The school wouldn't need as many computers, only for computer classes.
-No excuses for not being able to use computers at home.
-Easy access to email (to email teachers.)
-Turn in school work via email, so no papers are lost.
-Everything will be in an organized database instead of just grade books/papers.

Cons:
-Ipads cost more than 4 average textbooks.
-Ipads are easier to break than books.
-Ipads can download games etc.
-Students' handwriting may not improve/get worse.
-They are a hassle to monitor by the school/school board.
-They can be stolen (though the school could place tracking things or something.

[SaintVicious]

400X1500 = a broken school budget

[Phrozen_Soul]

Comrade Wrote:400X1500 = a broken school budget

Meh, our school system is close to cutting the ability to bring your own lunch or teachers who's students don't get A+++. Our school system is on a fast spiral twirl downward. Might as well have fun with it.

[Prince Rilian]

fish20 Wrote:Shoulld Ipads be brought to schools?


Pros
-The school could place all the students school books in the Ipad, which means the school won't have to buy many expensive books.

But it's not like the gubment will therefore spend less money on the prisons. This might be a benefit to students, not having to carry the books around. But, really, they should just be not doing any of the assignments.

Quote:-The school wouldn't need as many computers, only for computer classes.

Um, having to have one computer for each student? That's a lot more than they usually have.

Quote:-No excuses for not being able to use computers at home.

There's no fucking way they'd let the students take the computers home.

Quote:-Easy access to email (to email teachers.)
-Turn in school work via email, so no papers are lost.
-Everything will be in an organized database instead of just grade books/papers.

Cons:
-Ipads cost more than 4 average textbooks.

Yeah, and they'll have to buy e-books and those are still fucking expensive, stupid-ass textbook publishers.

Quote:-Ipads are easier to break than books.
-Ipads can download games etc.

They would put their little security things on them to "prevent" that.

Quote:-Students' handwriting may not improve/get worse.

Well, who gives two fucks and a shit about that in a world where handwriting is obsolete?

Quote:-They are a hassle to monitor by the school/school board.
-They can be stolen (though the school could place tracking things or something.

I find this whole thing ridiculous.

[flann]

Quote:Well, who gives two fucks and a shit about that in a world where handwriting is obsolete?

IT is necessarily.. in.. um... Signatures... and... Birthday Cards (1 word+your signature).... and um...filling out forms you get from your doctor of something... Or if you still pay for stamps

[Prince Rilian]

flann Wrote:

Quote:Well, who gives two fucks and a shit about that in a world where handwriting is obsolete?

IT is necessarily.. in.. um... Signatures... and... Birthday Cards (1 word+your signature).... and um...filling out forms you get from your doctor of something... Or if you still pay for stamps

Signatures are whatever you want them to be, they don't have to be "good" handwriting. I don't think anyone's going to forget how to do the "print" letters. Doctors always ask you to repeat everything you wrote on the forms anyway. And, stamps? What about stamps?

[flann]

Prince Rilian Wrote:

flann Wrote:

Quote:Well, who gives two fucks and a shit about that in a world where handwriting is obsolete?

IT is necessarily.. in.. um... Signatures... and... Birthday Cards (1 word+your signature).... and um...filling out forms you get from your doctor of something... Or if you still pay for stamps

Signatures are whatever you want them to be, they don't have to be "good" handwriting. I don't think anyone's going to forget how to do the "print" letters. Doctors always ask you to repeat everything you wrote on the forms anyway. And, stamps? What about stamps?

I didn't finish that apparently: I meant if you still pay stamps for mailing letters.
But I doubt people are gonna forget anyways

[EnemyOfTheState]

Well I live in a ghetto Public school, so within 1 period of students using the Ipads, they would all be gone....

So if it comes to the type of school you go to. And the type of city/neighborhood you live in, in my case I would vote No....

[Horrid Dreamer]

Here's my analysis. Sorry if some stuff has been said already.

Quote:Pros
-The school could place all the students school books in the Ipad, which means the school won't have to buy many expensive books.

Ipads are stil expensive. So are ebooks.Also, the students won't have schoolbags that are so fucking heavy. Less back pain for students.

Quote:-The school wouldn't need as many computers, only for computer classes.

Yes, but couldn't you use the ipad as a computer anyway?

Quote:-No excuses for not being able to use computers at home.

True, if they let you take them home.

Quote:-Easy access to email (to email teachers.)

True.

Quote:-Turn in school work via email, so no papers are lost.
-Everything will be in an organized database instead of just grade books/papers.

True, but if the ipad breaks and you lose your data, you're screwed.

Quote:Cons:
-Ipads cost more than 4 average textbooks.

The government will continue to spend ridiculous amounts of money on stuff we don't need.

Quote:-Ipads are easier to break than books.

True. They're probably working on improving that.

Quote:-Ipads can download games etc.

In my school, every single student in my grade has a laptop. If we had ipads, the situation would be similar. We download games anyway.

Quote:-Students' handwriting may not improve/get worse.

So?

Quote:-They are a hassle to monitor by the school/school board.

So are our laptops, but they still gave us them. Besides, the can't monitor us all anyway, and they probably know that.
The authorities can't monitor every llittle thing we do? What a shame. /sarcasm

Quote:-They can be stolen (though the school could place tracking things or something.

Everything can be stolen. Also, the day the school starts putting tracking devices on your belongings/equipment, things have gone way too far.

[fish20]

Quote:

Quote:Pros
-The school could place all the students school books in the Ipad, which means the school won't have to buy many expensive books.

Ipads are stil expensive. So are ebooks.Also, the students won't have schoolbags that are so fucking heavy. Less back pain for students.

Yes.

Quote:

Quote:-The school wouldn't need as many computers, only for computer classes.

Yes, but couldn't you use the ipad as a computer anyway?

I'm talking about web design, photoshop classes, etc.

Quote:-Ipads can download games etc.

In my school, every single student in my grade has a laptop. If we had ipads, the situation would be similar. We download games anyway.

Quote:

Quote:-Students' handwriting may not improve/get worse.

So?

I'm mostly doing this by a parent/teacher perspective, and they think handwriting is still important.

Quote:

Quote:-They are a hassle to monitor by the school/school board.

So are our laptops, but they still gave us them. Besides, the can't monitor us all anyway, and they probably know that.
The authorities can't monitor every llittle thing we do? What a shame. /sarcasm

Yeah, but I don't think they want you be doing illegal shit on their laptop.

Quote:

Quote:-They can be stolen (though the school could place tracking things or something.

Everything can be stolen. Also, the day the school starts putting tracking devices on your belongings/equipment, things have gone way too far.

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Its not your belongings, its the schools, they would give you ipads for free/reduced price.

[Psychoqueen]

I think I'd choose an ipad over the laptops we've been given. But it wouldn't be as easy to monitor everything we were doing, so I doubt they'd let it happen.

[Phrozen_Soul]

Psychoqueen Wrote:I think I'd choose an ipad over the laptops we've been given. But it wouldn't be as easy to monitor everything we were doing, so I doubt they'd let it happen.

We get shit-tier laptops that have trouble running microsoft word 2000 without crashing. I think iPads would be a godsend to the teachers.

[Prince Rilian]

fish20 Wrote:Its not your belongings, its the schools, they would give you ipads for free/reduced price.

It's not your property, but it's issued to you for the school year. I'd just refuse to use it. Just to make things harder for them, mostly.

[Phrozen_Soul]

Prince Rilian Wrote:

fish20 Wrote:Its not your belongings, its the schools, they would give you ipads for free/reduced price.

It's not your property, but it's issued to you for the school year. I'd just refuse to use it. Just to make things harder for them, mostly.

Where do i sign up for your kids school? You all say stuff like this but at my school they'd be telling me to use right up to they expelled me for the year.

[Prince Rilian]

Phrozen_Soul Wrote:

Prince Rilian Wrote:

fish20 Wrote:Its not your belongings, its the schools, they would give you ipads for free/reduced price.

It's not your property, but it's issued to you for the school year. I'd just refuse to use it. Just to make things harder for them, mostly.

Where do i sign up for your kids school? You all say stuff like this but at my school they'd be telling me to use right up to they expelled me for the year.

The thing is that I don't care if I get expelled. I got suspended with greater and greater frequency as I progressed through middle school and high school because I didn't give a shit about it and I didn't hesitate to tell the teachers to go fuck themselves. If I could go back in time and do things differently, I'd participate even less and tell them to fuck themselves even more.

[Tiji]

iPads would make a great tool for delivering rich content and information in a convenient and relatively affordable fashion, allowing pupils to cover what they want to learn at their own pace and with some refreshing flexibility.

But we're not talking about anything half-way respectable, we're talking about the disgusting public education system, and as long as they still waste their resources controlling people, any actual learning is pushed to the backburner, if your lucky. That being said though, computers/ipads/whatever are almost always a welcome addition. Both for typing out things rather then writing them, and for something fun to do when the teacher goes bitching on for hours at a time