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RE: Shouldn't we have a Discord?

(06-25-2017 08:02 AM)Gwedin Wrote:  good, i don't feel safe having pedo enablers posting on ss.

"pedo enabler"
ha ha

nice new label

nice way to try to throw mud at some one, discredit them, hurt them

very clever

but very violent

i am learning a lot from how g talks in here.

interestingly, he was fine with me in the short chat we had w/ ben an others

its sad what happened but it was necessary, and, i believe better to deal with it quickly and guess decisively.

i dont wish him any harm or pain. i can honestly say i wish him well. perhaps a few of us can chat again. im open to that.

i know he doesnt value and seems to disdain or hate online hugs but if i saw him in person i would offer him a real one.

i would feel good if learns something useful from this. and if others did. i feel sure at least a few people will.

perhaps i could have handled it better. it's so easy to second guess, judge/criticize me no. but i am at peace w/ my decision.. or lets say 8 out of ten at peace.

one thing i feel good about is i have helped soul see more clearly who she can count on here.

for that, i feel good.

and i feel appreciated by sr.

sr has made a positive diff in my life, as i know i have in hers.

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This "lel he's trying to label me, I'm so above that" garbage is making you sound like a teenage girl trying to sound mature, and failing with pathetic results.

Steve, you literally banned two people for no other reason than you thinking they don't fit the mold of what you think SS should be. There's no justification for that. You deserve all the ridicule you get for it. If you're going to respond with a wall of blather about "labels"/"i will give everyone hugs"/"i'm a victim and so is Soul", don't bother. You just discredit yourself every time you try.

And Stevie, If I hated you, I wouldn't be saying this. I would just sit back and watch your reputation burn. Keep that in mind.

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God damn stevenhein, no one really knew who you were before this whole mess.

You're just making yourself look worse.

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(06-26-2017 02:28 PM)HawkbitAlpha Wrote:  This "lel he's trying to label me, I'm so above that" garbage is making you sound like a teenage girl trying to sound mature, and failing with pathetic results.

Steve, you literally banned two people for no other reason than you thinking they don't fit the mold of what you think SS should be. There's no justification for that. You deserve all the ridicule you get for it. If you're going to respond with a wall of blather about "labels"/"i will give everyone hugs"/"i'm a victim and so is Soul", don't bother. You just discredit yourself every time you try.

And Stevie, If I hated you, I wouldn't be saying this. I would just sit back and watch your reputation burn. Keep that in mind.

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(06-26-2017 05:52 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  God damn stevenhein, no one really knew who you were before this whole mess.

You're just making yourself look worse.

tell me how u felt when u wrote this or u get a warning
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(06-26-2017 07:37 PM)St. Hein Wrote:  there are people that still support this man as admin

ha ha thanks again for the laugh

i kind of like your sense of humor

or humour since in think u might spell it that way where u live
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"Warning 1"

Sure, Steve. Go ahead and prove my point for me.

Your threat isn't going to faze me. So if you want to try to silence me, ban me. Go on ahead. Make me a martyr, and fuel your own funeral pyre. I dare you.

Either way, I still win. Banning me solely for opposing you will not only demonstrate your ridiculous power trip for everyone to see, but it'll also give me plenty of ammo to use in all but blacklisting this forum for potential new members.

Say I'm "undermining the forum." Clearly, I care more about it than you do, as I want to keep its spirit protected from control freaks. Respond with a "warning" and demonstrate what a sham you really are.

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I'm banned from the discord. It's the best fucking thing that's happened today.

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(06-27-2017 06:13 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  I'm banned from the discord. It's the best fucking thing that's happened today.

You got banned for spamming, make sure everyone knows that.

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I got banned just because of my opinion.

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(06-27-2017 06:20 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  I got banned just because of my opinion.

Me and a lot of other people were there.

You were banned for spamming.

Thank you. You ticket is #spam.

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(06-27-2017 06:20 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  I got banned just because of my opinion.

If that was the reason you would've been banned yesterday. But you weren't banned yesterday now were you?

No, you were banned because you kept spamming. That's the facts whether you want to accept it or not.

Or wait, as it turns out, you're not even banned, you left your damn self. So you're a fucking liar.

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Actually he wasn't banned

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I might as well have been. That was why I said that. Let's just end this flame war right here.

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This is just sad. He can't even lie to make himself look good.

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(06-27-2017 06:28 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  No, because I banned myself. So I know why I was banned.

That's not how it works, stop trying to make your lie sound better. It's just making you look worse.

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You guys have verbally attacked people, chased away a new user, labeled users as pedos, and yet you expect this forum to give in to unbanning everyone? And I have some screenshots of my own. I'm adding every last one of you that came after me to my ignore list.

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(06-27-2017 06:37 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  You guys have verbally attacked people, chased away a new user, labeled users as pedos, and yet you expect this forum to give in to unbanning everyone? And I have some screenshots of my own. I'm adding every last one of you that came after me to my ignore list.

We had a rogue take over is more like it. Everything was fine until Soul had to demod me over the Korravatar shitstorm.

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Hansgrohe Wrote:Ben you're not even giving serious arguments against us
which is sad

I have to say, that's ironic. You don't give arguments either.


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(06-27-2017 06:37 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  You guys have verbally attacked people, chased away a new user, labeled users as pedos, and yet you expect this forum to give in to unbanning everyone? And I have some screenshots of my own. I'm adding every last one of you that came after me to my ignore list.

We had a rogue take over is more like it. Everything was fine until Soul had to demod me over the Korravatar shitstorm.

Everything was fine, yep, Gwedin and Uryotigi chased nobody away, and it wasn't months before this stuff. Nothing to see here folks. And nobody got called a pedo.

What's your job as a moderator supposed to be?
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(06-27-2017 07:13 AM)Jop Wrote:  
Hansgrohe Wrote:Ben you're not even giving serious arguments against us
which is sad

I have to say, that's ironic. You don't give arguments either.


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(06-27-2017 06:37 AM)Benjavaz Wrote:  You guys have verbally attacked people, chased away a new user, labeled users as pedos, and yet you expect this forum to give in to unbanning everyone? And I have some screenshots of my own. I'm adding every last one of you that came after me to my ignore list.

We had a rogue take over is more like it. Everything was fine until Soul had to demod me over the Korravatar shitstorm.

Everything was fine, yep, Gwedin and Uryotigi chased nobody away, and it wasn't months before this stuff. Nothing to see here folks. And nobody got called a pedo.

What's your job as a moderator supposed to be?

I'll swallow my pride. I wasn't active at the time and I was really busy with college. Thank you for calling me out. No one is perfect.

I'll say this again though: in those cases, we need a warning system.

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Thank you for the support Jop.

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(06-27-2017 07:24 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I'll swallow my pride. I wasn't active at the time and I was really busy with college. Thank you for calling me out. No one is perfect.

Alright. That the posts weren't removed is not something I wanted to accuse of (I don't expect a bunch of slaves to be monitoring this forum 24/7). It was just the "everything was fine" statement that angered me.

(06-27-2017 07:24 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I'll say this again though: in those cases, we need a warning system.

...There isn't one? What is that "Warning Level: 0%" thing on the left side of a post then?
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(06-27-2017 07:38 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 07:24 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I'll say this again though: in those cases, we need a warning system.

...There isn't one? What is that "Warning Level: 0%" thing on the left side of a post then?

That's your personal warning level, it goes up when you've receive a warning. What Hans is talking about is a trigger warning system.

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(06-27-2017 07:39 AM)Night Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 07:38 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 07:24 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  I'll say this again though: in those cases, we need a warning system.

...There isn't one? What is that "Warning Level: 0%" thing on the left side of a post then?

That's your personal warning level, it goes up when you've receive a warning. What Hans is talking about is a trigger warning system.

Gonna say this again: I recommended this to Soul but she refused to implement it.

When I was a mod there was never an option for a warning. Not that I can remember. If there was, I believe it was quickly removed.

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(06-27-2017 07:39 AM)Night Wrote:  That's your personal warning level, it goes up when you've receive a warning. What Hans is talking about is a trigger warning system.

So, like the ignore feature, but enabled by default for a certain user? Yeah, I suggested that too.
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(06-27-2017 07:46 AM)Jop Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 07:39 AM)Night Wrote:  That's your personal warning level, it goes up when you've receive a warning. What Hans is talking about is a trigger warning system.

So, like the ignore feature, but enabled by default for a certain user? Yeah, I suggested that too.

AFAIK only Soul is allowed to use it.

Most other forums it's common for all mods to have this power.

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