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Freedom of Religion and Nonreligion Debate
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Freedom of Religion and Nonreligion Debate

All I was trying to say is that pro-gay is becoming less about equal rights and more about hating Christianity.

This is really what pro-gay is coming to: [Image: 85eb2233f95ecdee0b6748d79e186655-d3c8gtn.gif]

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RE: Freedom of Religion and Nonreligion Debate

Citation needed.

Edit: also, "bible thumper" primarily refers to a very classify-as-sin-oriented approach to Christianity that doesn't put much value on tolerance anyway.

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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This is good shit.
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RE: Freedom of Religion and Nonreligion Debate

(09-12-2014 10:19 AM)no Wrote:  Citation needed.

Edit: also, "bible thumper" primarily refers to a very classify-as-sin-oriented approach to Christianity that doesn't put much value on tolerance anyway.
Yes but it's gotten to the point where anyone who objects to gay marriage (which does not mean you hate gay people) is called a bible thumper.

I can't find citations because most of this is personal experience, but judging from DeviantArt, Reddit, etc. I'm not alone.

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For anyone who remembers me going on an archive binge: Thank you all. I know I ended it being a drama queen, I don't really agree with the ideology anymore, and I'm really not the same person I was (I went through a neopagan phase!) but still this site was the first online community I was in. I graduated from school and turned 18. Time flies. KFC Nyan Cat, June 20, 2019.
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RE: Freedom of Religion and Nonreligion Debate

Define "not alone." As in, others have actually witnessed this or others simply feel the same way you do?

(09-13-2014 03:49 PM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  anyone who objects to gay marriage (which does not mean you hate gay people)

How does this make sense? Someone who doesn't hate gay people, but thinks they shouldn't have the same rights as straight people?

Hello, traveler.

This is an ancient account I have not used in a long time. My views have changed much in the intervening months and years.

Nonetheless, I refuse to clean it up. Pretending that I've held my current views since the beginning of time is what we in the industry call a lie. Asking people to do so contributes to moralistic self-loathing. "See, those people have nothing damning! I do! I'm truly vile!"

Because you can never be a good person with a single blemish on the moral record, I thought that simply entertaining some thoughts made me irredeemable. Though I don't care for his writing style, William Faulkner presents a good counterexample. He went from being a typical Southern racist to supporting the civil rights movement. These days we'd yell at him for that, probably.

People are allowed to change their views.

Nevertheless, this period of my life has informed some of how I am today. In good ways and bad ways. To purge it would be to do a disservice to history. Perhaps it will not make anyone sympathetic, but it may help someone understand.

If, after reading all this, you still decide to use the post above as evidence that I am evil today, ask yourself if you have never disagreed with the moral code you now follow. In all likelihood you did, at some point. If some questions are verboten, and the answer is "how dare you ask that," don't expect your ideological opponents to ever change their minds.
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RE: Freedom of Religion and Nonreligion Debate

kfc, why do you dislike gay marriage
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(09-14-2014 06:13 AM)Username Wrote:  kfc, why do you dislike gay marriage

I don't, I just feel that the people who dislike gay marriage (and abortion) should be able to have their say without being socially persecuted.

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For anyone who remembers me going on an archive binge: Thank you all. I know I ended it being a drama queen, I don't really agree with the ideology anymore, and I'm really not the same person I was (I went through a neopagan phase!) but still this site was the first online community I was in. I graduated from school and turned 18. Time flies. KFC Nyan Cat, June 20, 2019.
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(09-13-2014 11:56 PM)no Wrote:  Define "not alone." As in, others have actually witnessed this or others simply feel the same way you do?

(09-13-2014 03:49 PM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  anyone who objects to gay marriage (which does not mean you hate gay people)

How does this make sense? Someone who doesn't hate gay people, but thinks they shouldn't have the same rights as straight people?

Both.

You do not have to wish death on gay people to disagree with the idea of same-sex marriage. Besides, if gay people didn't have the right to same-sex marriage, straight people wouldn't have the right to same-sex marriage.

WAAAAAAAIIIIIIIITTTT. How the hell did this become a gay marriage thread? It was a thread about social persecution of Christians. I'm not even against same-sex marriage!

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For anyone who remembers me going on an archive binge: Thank you all. I know I ended it being a drama queen, I don't really agree with the ideology anymore, and I'm really not the same person I was (I went through a neopagan phase!) but still this site was the first online community I was in. I graduated from school and turned 18. Time flies. KFC Nyan Cat, June 20, 2019.
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(09-14-2014 06:28 AM)KFC Nyan Cat Wrote:  WAAAAAAAIIIIIIIITTTT. How the hell did this become a gay marriage thread? It was a thread about social persecution of Christians. I'm not even against same-sex marriage!

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You walked right into it. Again.

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I swear it wasnt my doing

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(09-14-2014 09:04 AM)DoA Wrote:  You walked right into it. Again.

Doh!

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Silly me! I forgot all about this thread after it was split.

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