The Total Transformation Scam (aka The Total Brainwashing)

[Michio-kun]

Can someone tell me wtf this is?

This just sounds like another one of those programs that treat the child like the enemy.

Quote:Like many parents of kids who act out, you may have been in family therapy with your child. And you've probably come out wondering why it's still so difficult to get your child's behavior to change, after you've spent all that time and money.
Here's why. Traditional counseling and therapy focus on getting a child to talk about his "feelings" and building his self-esteem to change his behavior.

I believe there's a better way. And, in my experience, parents need tools they can use at home once the child comes out of that office and faces day-to-day, real-world challenges.

Behaviorally troubled kids lack the skills to solve the problems they encounter every day. The Total Transformation® teaches you how to give your child more effective ways to solve his problems than fighting, screaming, annoying and defiance. He'll learn a simple system that will enable him to handle his problems appropriately and on his own, without acting out. A system that gets him…and you…better results.

I love how much this is simplified. Like your children are just something you can manipulate and there is simple reason why your kid is being a piece of shit.

Quote:There's no psychobabble or high-brow theory. I'll teach you exactly what to say and do to stop the arguments and get through to your kid, no matter how resistant he is to you. No matter how difficult the behavior has become at home and at school.

Lol. Did you not stop to think maybe there is a legitimate reason your child is "acting up" (whatever that means)? Sorry but parents can be dumbasses too.

Also, it's hard being a kid in this industrialized western world. The real problem is that we live in a material society that is confusing and extremely imposing on even children that can hardly locate their dick (they have kindergarten entrance exams in some places now LOL). A typical child that grows up in western society today has unneccessary pressures, gets bombarded with consumerism, becomes increasingly estranged by their parents who are more than likely empty consumerists themselves, and lives according to innumerable, meaningless social images that confuse any sort of natural humanity left in them only to be replaced with vanity (success, money, empty relationships, cliques etc.). I'll go out on a limb and say behavioral problems are a combination of a child feeling alienated (usually from their parents or from the world in which they live in general) and/or confused with a lot of bullshit they picked up from school, their peers, TV advertisements, mass media etc.

Good luck on your shitty "Total Transformation" program.

[magikarp]

Quote: For the first time we have control.

^That basically summarizes the whole thing. :/

[Rebelnerd]

"They wish to cure us, but I say WE ARE THE CURE!"
-X men 3


disobediance is not a disease to be treated.

[random_name]

that is seriously fucked up shit. you dont cure th echild, sometimes i think the adults need i more than anyone.

[SoulRiser]

This reminds me of that South Park episode where Cartman gets a dog trainer to tell her how to deal with Cartman.

Quote:Traditional counseling and therapy focus on getting a child to talk about his "feelings" and building his self-esteem to change his behavior.

I believe there's a better way. And, in my experience, parents need tools they can use at home once the child comes out of that office and faces day-to-day, real-world challenges.

Of course. Why bother building the kid's self esteem when you can manipulate him and get "results" quicker even though they're not genuine or in his best interests?

*goes to site to find out WTF this is all about*

[SoulRiser]

Hey, maybe kids should try that program ON their parents.

[Michio-kun]

Quote:Who's really in charge at your home? If you're trying to parent a defiant, out of control child, you know how their behavior affects everyone and everything in your home, from siblings to your relationship with your spouse.

It's time to put you back in control of your home. Getting that control is simpler than you think. The Total Transformation® will give you back the respect you deserve and the authority your children actually need from you.

Fuck you too.

...

And ya we need a Total Transformation program that kids can use to get their parents in line.

[Trar]

"The authority your children need from you"

Fuck off! Children would be much better if their parents would let them build their own sandcastles, pick their own lunch, and be content with things.

Well, children DO need SOME authority, but not too much.

[psychopath]

This looks like a scam, so it probably can't even do the bullshit it claims it can.

[Trar]

Stratovarius Wrote:Can someone tell me wtf this is?

This just sounds like another one of those programs that treat the child like the enemy.

Quote:Like many parents of kids who act out, you may have been in family therapy with your child. And you've probably come out wondering why it's still so difficult to get your child's behavior to change, after you've spent all that time and money.
Here's why. Traditional counseling and therapy focus on getting a child to talk about his "feelings" and building his self-esteem to change his behavior.

I believe there's a better way. And, in my experience, parents need tools they can use at home once the child comes out of that office and faces day-to-day, real-world challenges.

Behaviorally troubled kids lack the skills to solve the problems they encounter every day. The Total Transformation® teaches you how to give your child more effective ways to solve his problems than fighting, screaming, annoying and defiance. He'll learn a simple system that will enable him to handle his problems appropriately and on his own, without acting out. A system that gets him…and you…better results.

I love how much this is simplified. Like your children are just something you can manipulate and there is simple reason why your kid is being a piece of shit.

Quote:There's no psychobabble or high-brow theory. I'll teach you exactly what to say and do to stop the arguments and get through to your kid, no matter how resistant he is to you. No matter how difficult the behavior has become at home and at school.

Lol. Did you not stop to think maybe there is a legitimate reason your child is "acting up" (whatever that means)? Sorry but parents can be dumbasses too.

Also, it's hard being a kid in this industrialized western world. The real problem is that we live in a material society that is confusing and extremely imposing on even children that can hardly locate their dick (they have kindergarten entrance exams in some places now LOL). A typical child that grows up in western society today has unneccessary pressures, gets bombarded with consumerism, becomes increasingly estranged by their parents who are more than likely empty consumerists themselves, and lives according to innumerable, meaningless social images that confuse any sort of natural humanity left in them only to be replaced with vanity (success, money, empty relationships, cliques etc.). I'll go out on a limb and say behavioral problems are a combination of a child feeling alienated (usually from their parents or from the world in which they live in general) and/or confused with a lot of bullshit they picked up from school, their peers, TV advertisements, mass media etc.

Good luck on your shitty "Total Transformation" program.

I know I'VE been bombarded with mindless, senseless vanity all my life.

[Milk2Go]

Our country was fucking FOUNDED on the act of defiance and unwillingness to change.

[Trar]

Ever since I posted my previous reply on this topic, i've been seeing all kinds of advertisements for this brainwashing program, littered all over radio, TV, and the car radio on my way to school. Those dumbfucks might wanna consider that if some children actually ENJOYED SCHOOL FOR REAL, then they'd lose that exact amount of customers, A.K.A, parents who can't parent.

[Michio-kun]

Ya I initially found out about this from the radio. It comes on ALL the time so I'm guessing they're actually getting a decent number of customers since they can pay for the advertising.

Sad.

[Stewart33]

What is this total transformation scam anyways?

[Ceiling Cat]

It's a scam which tricks parents into treating their children like animals, and paying for it on top of that.

[The Desert Fox]

Yeah, I made a newer thread about this. But anyway it's a program where they act like children are machines that have something wrong with them and treat them like so by brainwashing them.

[SoulRiser]

Guess what? Stewart33 is actually affiliated with The Total Transformation. His post contained a link (which I removed) to this page:

Code:

http://ratings.thetotaltransformation.com/

He's trying to get the keyword "total transformation scam" associated with that page. So that people see positive reviews instead of negative ones.

Which means that enough people search for "total transformation scam" for it to be a problem for them.

Now isn't that interesting?

[Rebelnerd]

Oh shit...it's spambots again! They're coming out of the walls! They're comin' outta the goddamn walls!

[waspline]

What are they, fucking TERMITES?

[Trar]

WE MUST KILL THEM WITH BULLETS AND FIRE

QUICK, REVIVE MOAR OLD THREADS TO REPEL THE SPAMBOT ARMY

[knower]

[/quote] just sounds like another one of those programs that treat the child like the enemy.

Sounds like..but in reality its a program to try to get your child to act civilized ,with respect,and try
to understand WHY? the REASON they in fact are treating you and their family like the enemy not the other way around. But unfortunately they wont TELL you the REASON. because then you can REASON together. It's generally they don't want to do what their parents know is in their best interest,not just for themselves but their family as well but of course if your anti-family,anti structure,anti social and any other thing that would constitute an attempt at a normal way of life.

Quote:Like many parents of kids who act out, you may have been in family therapy with your child. And you've probably come out wondering why it's still so difficult to get your child's behavior to change, after you've spent all that time and money.
Here's why. Traditional counseling and therapy focus on getting a child to talk about his "feelings" and building his self-esteem to change his behavior.

I believe there's a better way. And, in my experience, parents need tools they can use at home once the child comes out of that office and faces day-to-day, real-world challenges.

Behaviorally troubled kids lack the skills to solve the problems they encounter every day. The Total Transformation® teaches you how to give your child more effective ways to solve his problems than fighting, screaming, annoying and defiance. He'll learn a simple system that will enable him to handle his problems appropriately and on his own, without acting out. A system that gets him…and you…better results.

I love how much this is simplified. Like your children are just something you can manipulate and there is simple reason why your kid is being a piece of shit.

hmmm let's use that logic on lets say an adult who behaves in this way. your logic is if people try to tell this person they are being out of order or their treatment and behavior towards others is wrong,then we are simply wrong because we are trying to manipulate this person? and we shouldn't do that? we should just tolerate this person and you would as well because you certainly wouldn't want to manipulate anyone.

Quote:There's no psychobabble or high-brow theory. I'll teach you exactly what to say and do to stop the arguments and get through to your kid, no matter how resistant he is to you. No matter how difficult the behavior has become at home and at school.

Lol. Did you not stop to think maybe there is a legitimate reason your child is "acting up" (whatever that means)? Sorry but parents can be dumbasses too.

well of course there is ALWAYS a reason isn't there,yet asking your child to use reason and talk about the REASON doesn't work. And we know they generally don't want to tell anyone because inside they understand the REASON doesn't justify their actions or explain it.

Also, it's hard being a kid in this industrialized western world.

Lol industrialisation has been around for many decades and your parents were included,yet morals,decency,good social behavior in or out of the family structure has never been any different,and because this is 2011 doesn't mean that kids today have it much different than any other point in history. peer pressures etc. have always been they really haven't got much to do with the world being industrialized ,but more about kids growing up too fast and wanting to and thereby learning how to be more hostile and cruel to each other ,its not new just some things never change they just get worse.

The real problem is that we live in a material society that is confusing.
confusing? your born,you grow up ,go to school until you graduate,then get a job or go to college and get a job,get out of college get a job ,maybe buy a home maybe not ,get married and have kids or not,then you die.... how you get from A to B is up to you,either full of chaos and confusion or do your best to make it through life following the rules as best as you can. what are you confused about?

and extremely imposing on even children that can hardly locate their dick (they have kindergarten entrance exams in some places now LOL). A typical child that grows up in western society today has unneccessary pressures, gets bombarded with consumerism,

If you go mcdonalds or your preferred choice of fast food,your a consumer,or clothes you like to wear that you buy,again consumer,of course we all buy things we have to . has that got anything to do with being well behaved child? i don't see how that ties into it? and i will read that explanation if there is one with great interest.

becomes increasingly estranged by their parents who are more than likely empty consumerists themselves, and lives according to innumerable, meaningless social images that confuse any sort of natural humanity left in them only to be replaced with vanity (success, money, empty relationships, cliques etc.). I'll go out on a limb and say behavioral problems are a combination of a child feeling alienated

meaningless social images ? which are those? Vanity,success,money these have always been part of the human race since it began,this is not a recent event. if these are your REASONS ,then why haven't
all children through out time misbehaved and blamed their parents and acted out? guess what they have. again nothing new. its not a recent event. watch the next generation to come will be doing the same. yawn.

(usually from their parents or from the world in which they live in general) and/or confused with a lot of bullshit they picked up from school, their peers, TV advertisements, mass media etc.

Good luck on your shitty "Total Transformation" program.[/quote]

[SaintVicious]

o shit a super necro and fail quote ladies and gentlemen

[ErisQuodSum]

This is total bullshit, lol. I don't believe for a second that this lady truly thinks she can classify every child into the same structure. She's fucking trolling desperate parents with all these magic words and simple tricks.

On the other hand, those of you who think misbehaving children is something to be allowed for expression of self or some stupid pretentious shit, you're being a retard.

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

Quote:On the other hand, those of you who think misbehaving children is something to be allowed for expression of self or some stupid pretentious shit, you're being a retard.

That depends... sometimes people classify normal actions as "misbehavior".... what would you consider a "misbehavior"?

[ErisQuodSum]

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:

Quote:On the other hand, those of you who think misbehaving children is something to be allowed for expression of self or some stupid pretentious shit, you're being a retard.

That depends... sometimes people classify normal actions as "misbehavior".... what would you consider a "misbehavior"?

Acting like a little shit.

[UnschoolShqiponjë]

ErisQuodSum Wrote:

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:

Quote:On the other hand, those of you who think misbehaving children is something to be allowed for expression of self or some stupid pretentious shit, you're being a retard.

That depends... sometimes people classify normal actions as "misbehavior".... what would you consider a "misbehavior"?

Acting like a little shit.

....that's not general at all...

[LOON_ATTIC]

knower Wrote:just sounds like another one of those programs that treat the child like the enemy.

Sounds like..but in reality its a program to try to get your child to act civilized ,with respect,and try
to understand WHY? the REASON they in fact are treating you and their family like the enemy not the other way around. But unfortunately they wont TELL you the REASON. because then you can REASON together. It's generally they don't want to do what their parents know is in their best interest,not just for themselves but their family as well but of course if your anti-family,anti structure,anti social and any other thing that would constitute an attempt at a normal way of life.

Quote:Like many parents of kids who act out, you may have been in family therapy with your child. And you've probably come out wondering why it's still so difficult to get your child's behavior to change, after you've spent all that time and money.
Here's why. Traditional counseling and therapy focus on getting a child to talk about his "feelings" and building his self-esteem to change his behavior.

I believe there's a better way. And, in my experience, parents need tools they can use at home once the child comes out of that office and faces day-to-day, real-world challenges.

Behaviorally troubled kids lack the skills to solve the problems they encounter every day. The Total Transformation® teaches you how to give your child more effective ways to solve his problems than fighting, screaming, annoying and defiance. He'll learn a simple system that will enable him to handle his problems appropriately and on his own, without acting out. A system that gets him…and you…better results.

I love how much this is simplified. Like your children are just something you can manipulate and there is simple reason why your kid is being a piece of shit.

hmmm let's use that logic on lets say an adult who behaves in this way. your logic is if people try to tell this person they are being out of order or their treatment and behavior towards others is wrong,then we are simply wrong because we are trying to manipulate this person? and we shouldn't do that? we should just tolerate this person and you would as well because you certainly wouldn't want to manipulate anyone.

Quote:There's no psychobabble or high-brow theory. I'll teach you exactly what to say and do to stop the arguments and get through to your kid, no matter how resistant he is to you. No matter how difficult the behavior has become at home and at school.

Lol. Did you not stop to think maybe there is a legitimate reason your child is "acting up" (whatever that means)? Sorry but parents can be dumbasses too.

well of course there is ALWAYS a reason isn't there,yet asking your child to use reason and talk about the REASON doesn't work. And we know they generally don't want to tell anyone because inside they understand the REASON doesn't justify their actions or explain it.

Also, it's hard being a kid in this industrialized western world.

Lol industrialisation has been around for many decades and your parents were included,yet morals,decency,good social behavior in or out of the family structure has never been any different,and because this is 2011 doesn't mean that kids today have it much different than any other point in history. peer pressures etc. have always been they really haven't got much to do with the world being industrialized ,but more about kids growing up too fast and wanting to and thereby learning how to be more hostile and cruel to each other ,its not new just some things never change they just get worse.

The real problem is that we live in a material society that is confusing.
confusing? your born,you grow up ,go to school until you graduate,then get a job or go to college and get a job,get out of college get a job ,maybe buy a home maybe not ,get married and have kids or not,then you die.... how you get from A to B is up to you,either full of chaos and confusion or do your best to make it through life following the rules as best as you can. what are you confused about?

and extremely imposing on even children that can hardly locate their dick (they have kindergarten entrance exams in some places now LOL). A typical child that grows up in western society today has unneccessary pressures, gets bombarded with consumerism,

If you go mcdonalds or your preferred choice of fast food,your a consumer,or clothes you like to wear that you buy,again consumer,of course we all buy things we have to . has that got anything to do with being well behaved child? i don't see how that ties into it? and i will read that explanation if there is one with great interest.

becomes increasingly estranged by their parents who are more than likely empty consumerists themselves, and lives according to innumerable, meaningless social images that confuse any sort of natural humanity left in them only to be replaced with vanity (success, money, empty relationships, cliques etc.). I'll go out on a limb and say behavioral problems are a combination of a child feeling alienated

meaningless social images ? which are those? Vanity,success,money these have always been part of the human race since it began,this is not a recent event. if these are your REASONS ,then why haven't
all children through out time misbehaved and blamed their parents and acted out? guess what they have. again nothing new. its not a recent event. watch the next generation to come will be doing the same. yawn.

(usually from their parents or from the world in which they live in general) and/or confused with a lot of bullshit they picked up from school, their peers, TV advertisements, mass media etc.

Good luck on your shitty "Total Transformation" program.

die bot
It seems like 100% of the content from that post is from quotes?...

[ErisQuodSum]

UnschoolShqiponjë Wrote:

ErisQuodSum Wrote:Acting like a little shit.

....that's not general at all...

You were asking for something more specific? All right, how bout screaming relentlessly in public and not listening to your parents.

[SoulRiser]

ErisQuodSum Wrote:You were asking for something more specific? All right, how bout screaming relentlessly in public and not listening to your parents.

Here's the thing though. Why would a perfectly normal kid with no mental/behavioural issues do something like that? They wouldn't. Kids who behave like that have problems, and let's see now... kids are dependent on their parents for all forms of support - nutritional, emotional, and everything else. So if a kid behaves like "a little shit"... I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the time it's because his parents have unresolved emotional issues that he's picked up from them, since they are his "most important role models" and all of that stuff. Garbage in, garbage out...

[ErisQuodSum]

SoulRiser Wrote:

ErisQuodSum Wrote:You were asking for something more specific? All right, how bout screaming relentlessly in public and not listening to your parents.

Here's the thing though. Why would a perfectly normal kid with no mental/behavioural issues do something like that? They wouldn't. Kids who behave like that have problems, and let's see now... kids are dependent on their parents for all forms of support - nutritional, emotional, and everything else. So if a kid behaves like "a little shit"... I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the time it's because his parents have unresolved emotional issues that he's picked up from them, since they are his "most important role models" and all of that stuff. Garbage in, garbage out...

Exactly, this is what I'm saying should not be encouraged.