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RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Rusty Shackleford - 01-20-2014 05:29 PM

(01-12-2014 02:54 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  Another thing about school that is quite anti-introvert is group work. There are a lot of assignments in which group participation is mandatory, you can't do it by yourself. Most of the time I hate group assignments unless it's with someone I know. I don't want to say all group assignments are bad, and in fact group work is sometimes good. I just hate being forced to work with other people on things I could have done myself, especially with people I'm unfamiliar with. It seems that more and more group assignments keep being assigned. I also think that forced group work has, in part, lead to the phenomenon of groupthink.

And schools can be unbelievably picky with this. No working by yourself, you must work with another student! Work by yourself and you'll fail. It's not my fault I'd rather do something on my own than work with a stranger. It seems schools misunderstand introverts, and it seems they're only getting worse and worse.
These cooperative projects are the pits. 'Come on guys, work together, you'll learn things and become a functioning member of society!' blares the teacher.

Schools really seem to have gotten interested in group projects recently. I don't know why, probably because bullying or some other problem has entered the media, and the government forced the schools to act.

These cooperative projects are extremely counterproductive in my opinion. Instead of promoting cooperation, they cause friction between introverts and extroverts, and are often the cause of bullying, instead of a prevention measure. Another example of the 'one glove fits all' rule that schools obey fanatically.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - brainiac3397 - 01-21-2014 02:54 AM

Groups are crap.

Its never always a balanced effort. Even in college...


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Rusty Shackleford - 01-21-2014 03:41 AM

(01-21-2014 02:54 AM)brainiac3397 Wrote:  Groups are crap.

Its never always a balanced effort. Even in college...
Isn't 'never always' a bit odd? Anyways...


Intolerance to Introversion - Gwedin - 01-21-2014 09:42 AM

Surprising, considering his vocabulary.


Intolerance to Introversion - Ky - 01-21-2014 09:44 AM

The more verbose one is or tries to be, the higher greatness of the tendency to awkwardly strangle oneself utilizing the words.

Rested is my case.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - brainiac3397 - 01-21-2014 01:17 PM

I tend to disregard certain rules of the English grammar for a style I find unique to myself.

So never always actually makes a whole lot of sense and sounds good.

Must be why I never had such good grades when my grammar was graded.
So Im not strangling myself, but strangling others without realizing it.


Intolerance to Introversion - Gwedin - 01-21-2014 02:28 PM

It's like me with handwriting. Others say it's an undecipherable mess, but I can read it perfectly, so I don't intend to change anything. Smile


Intolerance to Introversion - James Comey - 01-21-2014 02:52 PM

The way I write involves me clutching the pencil with all my fingers. I often get asked "how do you do it?" and I just said "It's just the way I write". For others it's extremely difficult, for me it's just natural.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - brainiac3397 - 01-21-2014 04:03 PM

My handwriting is also difficult to read for those who havent had previous extended contact with it. Its a bit small and is like slightly wobbly print. I do leave generous spacing between words so you can decipher it and become accustomed to it.

It usually gets better the slower I write. But then it becomes more like drawing letters...

My vocabulary has always been better than my grammar. Perhaps having a good vocabulary is the cause of my nonconforming grammar. I simply end up creating my own structure when the current one turns out to be incompatible.

Also tend to create my own words that make absolutely perfect sense...at least vocabularically.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Rusty Shackleford - 01-22-2014 01:32 AM

(01-21-2014 02:52 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  The way I write involves me clutching the pencil with all my fingers. I often get asked "how do you do it?" and I just said "It's just the way I write". For others it's extremely difficult, for me it's just natural.
Looks like I've found some kin! I got so fed up with the annoying way I was forced to write, I invented my own style that works perfectly well. I just clutch the pen with most of my fingers and balance it against one finger (it's difficult to describe). No one I know writes in the same style.


Intolerance to Introversion - Trar - 05-27-2014 05:49 PM

Introverts do not face societal oppression. Maybe they could use more understanding, and public schooling is obviously not god for all of them, but introverts do not face societal oppression.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Ky - 05-28-2014 03:17 AM

(05-27-2014 05:49 PM)Trar Wrote:  Introverts do not face societal oppression. Maybe they could use more understanding, and public schooling is obviously not god for all of them, but introverts do not face societal oppression.

Then why are people with more introverted tendencies more likely to be cognitive refugees? Why does society reward networking and large social gatherings and offer little understanding for solitude and personal space? Why is it deemed okay to entertain someone who won't leave you alone but rude to deny them the attention they seek?

Introverts are not "oppressed", per se - but then again, I can't speak for all introverts - but in many respects they are at a disadvantage, especially those of particular archetypes.

I don't ask for retribution or even a level playing field. The name of the game is tolerance, and (if it does not exist already) the awareness that introverts do exist and do have different needs.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - UnicornLionWolf - 06-26-2016 04:13 PM

(01-09-2014 10:28 AM)Hansgrohe Wrote:  Amen. I'd post a longer reply but I'm not at a computer. I actually feel as if school has made me more introverted. Being bullied made me scared to socialize under the perceived threat of being rejected. I don't know. As an introvert, I feel I need some kind of formality in order to socialize. Barging in and trying to initiate conversations is not in my nature. Great post, DoA.

Somehow I wonder if that's what happened to me. I think at one point in my life, initiating came to me more naturally. Nowadays, it's possible for me to do so, but it takes effort on my part.


Intolerance to Introversion - Ky - 06-27-2016 01:27 AM

Ironically, I found out some time way after I posted this that I'm actually more of a shy extrovert. Go figure.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Cianna200 - 06-27-2016 02:13 AM

That Stephen guy really offended me, asshole.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Ky - 06-27-2016 04:29 AM

(06-27-2016 02:13 AM)Cianna200 Wrote:  That Stephen guy really offended me, asshole.

He's been banned for a long while.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - Cianna200 - 06-27-2016 04:39 AM

Thank goodness for that.


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - the Analogist - 06-28-2016 02:09 PM

I keep returning to this thread because it is awesome


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - the Analogist - 03-21-2017 01:45 AM

bump.
with relation to aspie vs. meyers briggs

learned that "neurodiverse" was coined per a greater effort to legitimize and validate the "oddities" of aspie people. the connection between IN and aspie continues to deepen


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - the Analogist - 03-21-2017 10:23 AM

that right-winger types use autistic as an insult to discredit weird people for the differentness


Intolerance to Introversion - James Comey - 03-21-2017 12:59 PM

TBH I think the ASD community should start reclaiming words like autist and sperg. Well, it's kinda already happening but I mean take the next step.


Intolerance to Introversion - SoulRiser - 03-22-2017 01:06 AM

Sperg makes me think of Zerg... I like it.

But other than that, what exactly is 'the next step'?


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - the Analogist - 03-22-2017 02:58 AM

for me its produce awesome kids at my house to gradually overwhelm and replace buttholes. thay way being weird wont matter since people will be cool about it


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - James Comey - 03-22-2017 04:26 AM

(03-22-2017 01:06 AM)SoulRiser Wrote:  Sperg makes me think of Zerg... I like it.

But other than that, what exactly is 'the next step'?

A genuine cultural movement?


Intolerance to Introversion - SoulRiser - 03-23-2017 05:08 AM

Quote:A genuine cultural movement?
What exactly does that entail?


Intolerance to Introversion - James Comey - 03-23-2017 05:24 AM

Music, art, movies, traditions?


RE: Intolerance to Introversion - the Analogist - 03-23-2017 05:34 AM

anime


Intolerance to Introversion - SoulRiser - 03-23-2017 08:34 AM

Aah, those kinds of culture things. When I see the word "culture", I think of African tribal stuff for some reason. Probably because of where I live. That, and the concept of culture confuses me in general...


Intolerance to Introversion - James Comey - 03-23-2017 10:52 AM

To be honest I actually kind of think the same way you do. Except tribes in general rather than a specific geographic location.


Intolerance to Introversion - SoulRiser - 03-26-2017 12:54 PM

I suppose I've never really thought of myself as 'part of' any particular group, nor have any of the ones I found seemed appealing enough for me to want to be "one of them" or whatever. Well, I mean, some seemed nice, but I just don't want to have some kind of 'hive mind' mentality thing going on.