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How to hide your SS account from people - SoulRiser - 08-01-2012 08:25 AM
For the super paranoid:
Install Truecrypt, make a password-protected container, install your favourite browser from PortableApps inside this container, and use that for all your SS surfing needs. Dismount the container when not in use.
For the slightly less paranoid:
Use 'private browsing' mode in whichever browser you use.
Or install your favourite browser from PortableApps on a USB flash drive and hide the flash drive from people.
Or combine all these ideas if you're REALLY paranoid.
And avoid logging on to SS while at school.
We can, and sometimes do, mass-hide posts (temporarily) for people if they're in some kind of IRL trouble, but we will never under any circumstances mass-delete anyone's posts or delete their account.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - IamNoone - 08-16-2012 01:28 AM
And for those tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts, just sign up with completely fake info, and if you message me I can show you how to make a proxy, encrypt any records of browsing history, wipe your computer, and leave no sign you have ever seen the site.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - bulgarianlion - 08-16-2012 02:28 AM
(08-16-2012 01:28 AM)IamNoone Wrote: And for those tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy nuts, just sign up with completely fake info, and if you message me I can show you how to make a proxy, encrypt any records of browsing history, wipe your computer, and leave no sign you have ever seen the site.
I never knew computers shit
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - IamNoone - 08-17-2012 09:49 AM
That gave me a good laugh, thanks
How to hide your SS account from people - zagix - 08-21-2012 10:35 PM
TOR TOR TOR TOR
How to hide your SS account from people - Alistoriv - 03-08-2013 03:07 AM
I use Tor on a flash drive to visit SS, the only problem with that is that SS uses IP detection software and many of the Tor IPs have been used for spamming. :(
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - SoulRiser - 03-08-2013 09:32 PM
hmmm... good point that. but if i turn that off, spambot hell will break loose again.
How to hide your SS account from people - SoulRiser - 03-08-2013 09:52 PM
I've turned it off, we'll see what happens... might be back on again soon. xD
How to hide your SS account from people - l1qu1d - 11-11-2013 06:43 AM
I mainly use TOR or if less paranoid - Incognito XD
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - (´・ω・`) - 12-11-2013 04:11 AM
For the super super paranoid:
Follow SoulRiser's advice, and layer your favorite proxy on top of it. That'll thwart any efforts to trace internet usage by looking at a router history (though I doubt most parents are smart enough to really do that).
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - Freeze - 06-30-2014 04:47 AM
(11-11-2013 06:43 AM)l1qu1d Wrote: I mainly use TOR or if less paranoid - Incognito XD
I've heard of Tor a few times and just assumed it was just another proxy. It's a little confusing but it sounds much more interesting than the proxy I currently use considering it's a platform for a variety of 'darkweb' sites.
How to hide your SS account from people - SoulRiser - 09-18-2015 12:22 AM
I think we need to update this for the new Windows 10 "child account" crap. Anyone actually have that installed and willing to test it? I'm not touching it with a 10 foot pole...
I wanna test specifically if a child account uses VirtualBox with another OS on it, if Windows 10 can still figure out what sites the account was visiting.
EDIT: Booting another OS from a USB should always still work, though, as long as there's no "secure boot" thing that won't let you boot anything other than Windows 10 (but if so, should be possible to disable it).
EDIT2: Also, would Tor still work? I'm trying to figure out if it's doing packet sniffing or how it's actually doing its spying. The internet doesn't seem to know (or care).
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - brainiac3397 - 09-18-2015 01:34 AM
Theyd have to kill me to get me to use win 10.
But win 11...maybe.
How to hide your SS account from people - schoolsux - 09-18-2015 07:59 AM
I'm downloading Windows 10 right now.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - no - 09-18-2015 08:15 AM
DON'T DO IT
How to hide your SS account from people - James Comey - 09-18-2015 01:50 PM
Given that I'm 18 years old I don't think I have to be paranoid.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - brainiac3397 - 09-18-2015 01:54 PM
(09-18-2015 01:50 PM)Hansgrohe Wrote: Given that I'm 18 years old I don't think I have to be paranoid.
Doesn't make win 10 any less sucky.
How to hide your SS account from people - James Comey - 09-18-2015 02:03 PM
Add that to the reasons I miss the early 2000s...
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - Absnt - 09-18-2015 04:37 PM
Holy shit I was way off, they do it through a "next generation packet pipeline". Totally deep packet inspection. Creepy as shit. Works coss-browser. I'm not sure if the sandboxing in the tor-browser would be able to defeat that. It *might* be able to, but given they're blocking dns records, I'm not so sure TLS would be able to make a connection to encrypt before it gets cut off. In a virtual machine, that's not true and it would still work with TLS (but possibly not without TLS), but if they're on a child account, installing a virtual machine might not be possible because of a lack of permissions. This is some really creepy bullshit.
In fact, if you visit pornographic content, it does fucking image recognition on the fucking content and *blurs it out*. They spent way too much time on this fucking creepy bullshit.
All we can hope is that the tor browser sandboxes and encrypts to the tor network before packets for dns are transmitted. Plus we have to hope it doesn't prevent tor browser from being launched easily in the first place. Then you have to deal with downloading it without the parents knowing, given that the parental reports email them a list of websites you visited.
Yeah we're gonna have to do some serious testing here. Given the extent of their packet inspection (their stack automatically deconstructs and bundles packets into component objects for inspection) the only way to defeat this is encryption prior to transmitting connection info, which means not being able to use any blocked sites before connecting to a secure channel. Some kind of VPN comes to mind, a decent VPN could do this well. Fug. Here's to hoping Tor can do it.
You should really have TLS/SSL for these forums, too. If you set that up, there's a slight possibility that users could configure their browsers to connect to a TLS proxy which somehow redirects to SS in such a way that the domain name isn't visible to the parental controls, and in such a way that if they try to visit the domain name of the proxy it doesn't return anything. This would all need quite a bit of testing though.
How to hide your SS account from people - brainiac3397 - 09-18-2015 11:50 PM
Dat Microsoft Censorship
How to hide your SS account from people - SoulRiser - 09-19-2015 04:38 AM
@Absnt, where did you find that info? That's some deeply disturbing shit, and totally unnecessary for an OS... I find it hard to believe so many people are happily and willingly installing this shit... and thinking of it as an upgrade! ...it's crazy.
I might have to get SSL at some point in the future anyway, so... yeah. Hopefully by then they'll make it free. (lol). Seriously, Google wants all websites on the internet to be SSL, so they better make a plan to give us all free certificates or something.
So it looks like the easiest/safest way 'around' Windows 10's bullshit is to just boot from a Linux USB. I hope they don't take that option away from newer computers...
How to hide your SS account from people - Missile - 09-19-2015 09:32 AM
I can actually selectively delete individual entries from my search history, so I'm not as paranoid as I was two years ago.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - Absnt - 09-19-2015 12:14 PM
(09-19-2015 04:38 AM)SoulRiser Wrote: @Absnt, where did you find that info? That's some deeply disturbing shit, and totally unnecessary for an OS... I find it hard to believe so many people are happily and willingly installing this shit... and thinking of it as an upgrade! ...it's crazy.
I might have to get SSL at some point in the future anyway, so... yeah. Hopefully by then they'll make it free. (lol). Seriously, Google wants all websites on the internet to be SSL, so they better make a plan to give us all free certificates or something.
So it looks like the easiest/safest way 'around' Windows 10's bullshit is to just boot from a Linux USB. I hope they don't take that option away from newer computers...
If you read through some of the Microsoft API's for Windows 8 which to my knowledge is similar and they back-ported several of the features, you can read about it in their documentation for developers. For example: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/Library/Windows/Hardware/dn653358%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
Quote:Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) enables TCP/IP packet filtering, inspection, and modification, connection monitoring or authorization, IPsec rules and processing, and RPC filtering.
The gist of it is that windows 8 now uses WFP, which iirc was improved upon and extended a lot and implemented as default in windows 10. So once you know that their Family stuff is running on and using WFP, Windows Filtering Platform, you can just look into what that thing does.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363967%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
And get into even more detail if you want:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363977%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
Which is describing WFP filters.
Quote:Filters
A filter is a rule that is matched against incoming or outgoing packets. The rule tells the filtering engine what to do with the packet, including to call a callout module for deep packet or stream inspection. For example, a filter may specify "Block traffic with a TCP port greater than 1024" or "Call out to IDS for all traffic that is not secured."
I bet they use the packets to identify visited websites, not browser history, because it works cross browser.
How to hide your SS account from people - SoulRiser - 09-20-2015 04:01 AM
Well, shit...
OK, so it mails parents the visited site history, URLs and maybe titles...
Not page content, though? I could make a proxy-site for SS that looks like something entirely different until you log in, and then you can access the forums... that might work. Until people catch on to the URL of that... or I could build it into every other domain I have. Let people host their own. Or something.
Not sure how I'd actually implement that, though...
But then with all the built in keylogger shit, there's probably a simple way for the parents to just get the kid's login details or something...
This is gonna be a problem.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - no - 09-20-2015 04:26 AM
Let's start a petition to ban parents.
RE: How to hide your SS account from people - vonunov - 10-16-2015 08:16 AM
Truecrypt is no longer developed. Veracrypt is a fork good for anyone who is already familiar with TC.