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Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - genuine anarchist - 12-17-2010 02:27 PM

AWOL Wrote:
genuine anarchist Wrote:sepakuku, or suicide.
None O_O Smile Laugh Rofl

Oh, I think I'm gonna shit myself laughing...


It's "seppuku" for one, and that's only regular suicide. The samurai committed harikiri (or "bowel cutting").


Sepakuku... Laugh

Fuck you... Embarrassed Nah, I was thinking of a game, so disregard what I said.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-17-2010 02:43 PM

But it was so funny!


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-19-2010 02:46 AM

HeartofShadows Wrote:
Derchin Wrote:Kind of agree with you, but this person could get some help. Its stupidity to just sit there and be tormented without getting some help to change that situation.

Look at what help is nowadays.
Shrinks who give no rats ass about you and people who will mock and jeer you because they figure you want attention and even people who look at you all differently once they find out whether it be through fear or disgust. Some people aren't as pathetic as to suicide over attention.
Lets not forget about the good old drugs they put you on too. Smile

I guess you're seeing the wrong shrinks. The one my sister went was friendly and welcoming for all of us.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-19-2010 07:15 AM

Kinda sucks when you realize it's their job and they're just like you on the inside.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - HeartofShadows - 12-19-2010 08:53 AM

AWOL Wrote:Kinda sucks when you realize it's their job and they're just like you on the inside.

This right here sums it up derchin.

The psych stuff doesn't work by itself and only by giving into delusion and trying to block the thoughts that bother you can you try to live but you only block it with idealistic bullcrap and the nagging feeling chips away at you from the inside if you can't block it well enough.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-19-2010 12:02 PM

HeartofShadows Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Kinda sucks when you realize it's their job and they're just like you on the inside.

This right here sums it up derchin.

The psych stuff doesn't work by itself and only by giving into delusion and trying to block the thoughts that bother you can you try to live but you only block it with idealistic bullcrap and the nagging feeling chips away at you from the inside if you can't block it well enough.
So should mope around, feeling sorry for ourselves?


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - HeartofShadows - 12-19-2010 12:08 PM

Derchin Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Kinda sucks when you realize it's their job and they're just like you on the inside.

This right here sums it up derchin.

The psych stuff doesn't work by itself and only by giving into delusion and trying to block the thoughts that bother you can you try to live but you only block it with idealistic bullcrap and the nagging feeling chips away at you from the inside if you can't block it well enough.
So should mope around, feeling sorry for ourselves?

Uhh no.
You deal with your problems.

My point is most people are happy when they find something to sink themselves into to distract themselves from the harsh effects of life whether its some belief, goal or even interest.

Yes there are people who use suicide for attention but there are some who don't give a damn about some stupid idealism and maybe can't find anything worthwhile in life.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-19-2010 12:26 PM

So people kill themselves when their basic needs (Love, protection, shelter, self-esteem, ect ) aren't met or met properly?


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - HeartofShadows - 12-19-2010 12:40 PM

Derchin Wrote:So people kill themselves when their basic needs (Love, protection, shelter, self-esteem, ect ) aren't met or met properly?

People kill themselves for a number of reasons.
Sometimes they are young and get forced expectations on them that they believe they must accomplish and once they don't they figure that life isn't worth it.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuch ... ng-problem

Sometimes people may react to problems or take a long hard look at their lives and figure that it brings no meaning to them, Some people like to sleep and figure that the happiest moments of their lives.

Most times the blue print plan doesn't fit people and not everybody wants to be strong and try to curve their own way so they take the easier road.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-19-2010 12:52 PM

Essentials in life are food, water and shelter.


The rest is optional.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-19-2010 01:05 PM

AWOL Wrote:Essentials in life are food, water and shelter.


The rest is optional.

Maybe we should only be concerned on these needs, then.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - HeartofShadows - 12-19-2010 01:45 PM

Derchin Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Essentials in life are food, water and shelter.


The rest is optional.

Maybe we should only be concerned on these needs, then.

Yeah shame people can't be simple nowadays.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Sociopath - 12-21-2010 12:19 AM

HeartofShadows Wrote:
Derchin Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Essentials in life are food, water and shelter.


The rest is optional.

Maybe we should only be concerned on these needs, then.

Yeah shame people can't be simple nowadays.
These.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - fish20 - 12-21-2010 04:13 PM

Why should someone deal with something they didn't need to be a part of in the first place.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - HeartofShadows - 12-21-2010 05:45 PM

fish20 Wrote:Why should someone deal with something they didn't need to be a part of in the first place.

Everybody wants everyone to see and do things through their prospective even though they claim to be all for letting people make their own choice.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-22-2010 08:46 AM

HeartofShadows Wrote:
fish20 Wrote:Why should someone deal with something they didn't need to be a part of in the first place.

Everybody wants everyone to see and do things through their prospective even though they claim to be all for letting people make their own choice.
I would assume they're trying to set them on the "right path". Maybe they're doing it because they missed their chance.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - HeartofShadows - 12-22-2010 08:49 AM

Derchin Wrote:
HeartofShadows Wrote:
fish20 Wrote:Why should someone deal with something they didn't need to be a part of in the first place.

Everybody wants everyone to see and do things through their prospective even though they claim to be all for letting people make their own choice.
I would assume they're trying to set them on the "right path". Maybe they're doing it because they missed their chance.

That's even more pathetic. Smile


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Thought Criminal - 12-22-2010 11:22 AM

I don't think it is a cowardly thing to do.
Some people genuinely feel that they have gotten all they can out of life and that there is nothing left for them. If someone can't find peace who are we to deny them a way out?


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-22-2010 11:49 AM

Thought Criminal Wrote:I don't think it is a cowardly thing to do.
Some people genuinely feel that they have gotten all they can out of life and that there is nothing left for them. If someone can't find peace who are we to deny them a way out?
There are other ways.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-22-2010 11:54 AM

What? Like taking drugs that make you ricochet around the emotional scale? Continuing to live in immense depression and disinterest just 'cause some selfish asshole decided to guilt trip you? Go fuck yourself.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-22-2010 02:02 PM

AWOL Wrote:What? Like taking drugs that make you ricochet around the emotional scale? Continuing to live in immense depression and disinterest just 'cause some selfish asshole decided to guilt trip you? Go fuck yourself.
Wow. Giving some suggestions, and I'm told to go fuck myself. Wow, I must be incredible. People don't wanna hear the truth, oh well.......



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Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-22-2010 02:15 PM

HeartofShadows Wrote:
AWOL Wrote:Kinda sucks when you realize it's their job and they're just like you on the inside.

This right here sums it up derchin.

The psych stuff doesn't work by itself and only by giving into delusion and trying to block the thoughts that bother you can you try to live but you only block it with idealistic bullcrap and the nagging feeling chips away at you from the inside if you can't block it well enough.


Uhh no.
You deal with your problems.

My point is most people are happy when they find something to sink themselves into to distract themselves from the harsh effects of life whether its some belief, goal or even interest.

Yes there are people who use suicide for attention but there are some who don't give a damn about some stupid idealism and maybe can't find anything worthwhile in life.[/quote]
How can someone deal with their problems without "conforming to society's oppressive rules". So they deal with it and it gets worse, or they can try to get help (vent their problems) and are happy and willing to accept society's rules. Take your pick.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Thought Criminal - 12-22-2010 03:45 PM

It's obviously not a place you have been... I've been through alot of emotional trauma, and seriously considered suicide at one point in my life. I found another way out but for some people the simply is no other way out. They have tried everything they can to bring peace and happiness into their lives but cannot do it. They long for that time when they may sleep. They are not mentally disturbed, there is nothing wrong with them. There is simply nothing life can offer but suffering. I leave you again, Who are we to deny a person that right?


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-22-2010 11:31 PM

TC: Assholes?
Derchin Wrote:My point is most people are happy when they find something to sink themselves into to distract themselves from the harsh effects of life whether its some belief, goal or even interest.

Yes there are people who use suicide for attention but there are some who don't give a damn about some stupid idealism and maybe can't find anything worthwhile in life.
How can someone deal with their problems without "conforming to society's oppressive rules". So they deal with it and it gets worse, or they can try to get help (vent their problems) and are happy and willing to accept society's rules. Take your pick.[/quote]

Most people tend not to have nothing left to live for, and most people haven't gone through the process of depression. Y'know, emotional overload. Emotional shock. Brain assuming this means really, seriously fucking sad.

I, personally, have trust issues. I can tell people here anything 'cause there are next to no consequences. People in real life? They all get some form of a façade, I just can't trust them with any major information. Getting help is kind of impossible, and I have more fun when people don't know enough about me to make a dent in my armor. I can deal with my problems all well and fine, and honestly, if you are bad enough that you just have to bitch to a therapist, it's probably not going to change the outcome. Therapists suck.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-22-2010 11:55 PM

AWOL Wrote:TC: Assholes?
Derchin Wrote:My point is most people are happy when they find something to sink themselves into to distract themselves from the harsh effects of life whether its some belief, goal or even interest.

Yes there are people who use suicide for attention but there are some who don't give a damn about some stupid idealism and maybe can't find anything worthwhile in life.
How can someone deal with their problems without "conforming to society's oppressive rules". So they deal with it and it gets worse, or they can try to get help (vent their problems) and are happy and willing to accept society's rules. Take your pick.

Most people tend not to have nothing left to live for, and most people haven't gone through the process of depression. Y'know, emotional overload. Emotional shock. Brain assuming this means really, seriously fucking sad.

I, personally, have trust issues. I can tell people here anything 'cause there are next to no consequences. People in real life? They all get some form of a façade, I just can't trust them with any major information. Getting help is kind of impossible, and I have more fun when people don't know enough about me to make a dent in my armor. I can deal with my problems all well and fine, and honestly, if you are bad enough that you just have to bitch to a therapist, it's probably not going to change the outcome. Therapists suck.[/quote]

Not everyone finds help that way.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-23-2010 12:03 AM

Practically no one gets help through therapeutic means. It's just going to send you into shock once you realize that the person you were paying to like you isn't like everyone else out there (Y'know... Not paid to like you) so they just go into emotional shock again. And then back to therapy. And out again. Emotional shock. Therapy. Out. So on and so forth.

If you want some form of real help, get a hobby and socialize. It's kinda what humans were made to do.


Just in 'simpler' times, 'hobbies' consisted of hunting and gathering.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Miller0700 - 12-23-2010 12:05 AM

AWOL Wrote:Practically no one gets help through therapeutic means. It's just going to send you into shock once you realize that the person you were paying to like you isn't like everyone else out there (Y'know... Not paid to like you) so they just go into emotional shock again. And then back to therapy. And out again. Emotional shock. Therapy. Out. So on and so forth.

If you want some form of real help, get a hobby and socialize. It's kinda what humans were made to do.


Just in 'simpler' times, 'hobbies' consisted of hunting and gathering.
I didn't mean to come off like that, I was uspet.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-23-2010 01:09 AM

Ah, fair enough.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - Thought Criminal - 12-23-2010 03:15 AM

I think my biggest problem with people not allowing suicide (The thought itself amuses me) is that it's not their decision to make. You have absolutely ZERO right telling someone they can't end their life if they so choose. Why would you even want to disallow that? It makes no sense to me. I understand the whole "ALL LIFE IS SACRED" bullshit. But it fucking isn't. We are just an evolutionary screw up.


Re: Suicide: A Coward's Death - AWOL - 12-23-2010 03:52 AM

Really depends on how you look at it. We're like a virus. Awesome in terms of evolution, at least initially. But eventually we kill off our resources and die off.