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America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - ~Mystery~ - 12-18-2010 08:02 PM

In a capitalist society the most worthy of people rise to the top of the financial pyramid. This is widely known in the business world and many entrepueners focus their personal growth to fit the shoes of wealth.

How in a America then after having spent years attaining this do people stand up to the bulshit of equal opportunity employers?

Its bad because its a hiearchy of inferiority or superiority at the top business level. but at the layman level its pure communism. people rather higher lazy bums because it makes their business look "EQUAL"

I feel no Nationalism for stupid Country. I hope Poland comes and Conquers us.


Edit

Hey look someone who agrees with me
http://downlinesecret.net/87111/is-equa ... oble-idea/


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Faby - 12-18-2010 08:34 PM

'Weren't you a Messenger once?' Arlen asked, confused at the man's attitude.

'I was,' Cob agreed, lifting his sleeve to show a tattoo similar to Ragen's. 'I travelled to the five Free Cities and a dozen hamlets, and earned more money than I thought I could ever spend.' He paused, letting Arlen's confusion grow. 'I also earned this,' he said, lifting his shirt to show thick scars running across his stomach, 'and this,' he slipped a foot from his shoe. A crescent of scarred flesh, long healed, showed where four of his toes had been.


--The Painted Man, Peter Brett.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - aaaaaaasd - 12-18-2010 08:58 PM

holy shit

it's not like we've known this before or anything

gee mystery if you like poland so much why don't you go and live over there


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Faby - 12-18-2010 09:17 PM

Ceiling Cat'd rape him.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - DragonDusk - 12-19-2010 08:16 AM

I think we know this already.

Also, I think America deserves to be nuked by the rest of the world. Not conquered. Better that way.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Leon Kinotolian - 12-19-2010 08:58 AM

DragonDusk Wrote:I think America deserves to be nuked by the rest of the world. Not conquered. Better that way.
As long as the people who are actually pretty decent folk get a chance to GTFO first. Anywhere from a week to a month of notice. Personally, I'd like to have a chance to move to Singapore or England and chill with friends.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - HeartofShadows - 12-19-2010 09:02 AM

Leon Kinotolian Wrote:
DragonDusk Wrote:I think America deserves to be nuked by the rest of the world. Not conquered. Better that way.
As long as the people who are actually pretty decent folk get a chance to GTFO first. Anywhere from a week to a month of notice. Personally, I'd like to have a chance to move to Singapore or England and chill with friends.

With Leon.

give me 3 days and I'll be out of america with or without a passport.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - The Desert Fox - 12-19-2010 09:20 AM

HeartofShadows Wrote:
Leon Kinotolian Wrote:
DragonDusk Wrote:I think America deserves to be nuked by the rest of the world. Not conquered. Better that way.
As long as the people who are actually pretty decent folk get a chance to GTFO first. Anywhere from a week to a month of notice. Personally, I'd like to have a chance to move to Singapore or England and chill with friends.

With Leon.

give me 3 days and I'll be out of america with or without a passport.
I heard that!

Hidden stuff:
Not in the "I'll tell on you" way, in the "Amen to that" way.



Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - jose - 12-19-2010 09:48 AM

America is one day gonna get the same fate as El Salvador. It will be run by gangsters, it's people will be in poverty, and the government wont give a shit ( oh wait, the government is already like that.)


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Dannyboy - 12-19-2010 10:00 AM

The problem with equal opportunity employment is that it gets abused a lot. It was originally meant to help end things like racism and sexism in the work place, but people who saw that they could abuse the system to get into a job or position of power they otherwise would never get, abused the system for exactly that. I have yet to see anyone trying to fix this problem myself, but someone else may know something I don't.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Rebelnerd - 12-20-2010 03:01 PM

I wonder how many people actually read Mystery's post and how many just say "America=bad" and immediately jumped in to agree. You all do realize he's supporting capitalism, ruthless social Darwinism, and opposing programs meant to fight discrimination in the workplace? Basically, he's taking one of the biggest reasons WHY America sucks and saying we haven't gone far enough.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - ~Mystery~ - 12-20-2010 03:58 PM

I don't want a Capitalist society, I think businesses should be owned by a Government representative of the particular trade. rather than seeing them backstab the nation and move offshore.

Entertainment industry ran by a branch of skilled Psycologist and Sociogists.

Agriculture and food type by Knowledgable Biologists and Horticulturists.

Culinary type businesses by Expert Chefs and Chemists (Sanitation)

Housing programs by Architects and Engineers.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - flann - 02-20-2011 07:37 AM

~Mystery~ Wrote:I don't want a Capitalist society, I think businesses should be owned by a Government representative of the particular trade. rather than seeing them backstab the nation and move offshore.

Entertainment industry ran by a branch of skilled Psycologist and Sociogists.

Agriculture and food type by Knowledgable Biologists and Horticulturists.

Culinary type businesses by Expert Chefs and Chemists (Sanitation)

Housing programs by Architects and Engineers.

In capitalist america, the bank rob you!

I want to go to britain, though.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - HeartofShadows - 02-20-2011 07:41 AM

Anarchists are twits but one thing we share is our hate of corporations.

Parasites that pull their weight but eventually get to big and eat everything around them.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Bob Dole - 02-20-2011 11:21 AM

~Mystery~ Wrote:In a capitalist society the most worthy of people rise to the top of the financial pyramid. This is widely known in the business world and many entrepueners focus their personal growth to fit the shoes of wealth.

How in a America then after having spent years attaining this do people stand up to the bulshit of equal opportunity employers?

Its bad because its a hiearchy of inferiority or superiority at the top business level. but at the layman level its pure communism. people rather higher lazy bums because it makes their business look "EQUAL"

I feel no Nationalism for stupid Country. I hope Poland comes and Conquers us.


Edit

Hey look someone who agrees with me
http://downlinesecret.net/87111/is-equa ... oble-idea/

Quote:In a capitalist society the most worthy of people rise to the top of the financial pyramid. This is widely known in the business world and many entrepueners focus their personal growth to fit the shoes of wealth.

The idea that the most "worthy" rise to the top is reminiscent of the old ideas that if you were pious and righteous, God would reward you with material prosperity and a place in Heaven. Today, "the invisible hand of the market" has replaced God, and people worship the acquisition of money, and set as role models those who have already done so.

The reality of the situation is that quite often, the incapable get thrust up to the highest positions, and the most capable eke out a living. One needs to only look at the recent financial disaster to see the truth in that statement. Sometimes it comes down to chance, sometimes it's who you know, and there sure as hell isn't any sort of equality in what opportunities people get.

Quote:How in a America then after having spent years attaining this do people stand up to the bulshit of equal opportunity employers?

Because you don't understand history. Here's a little something for you to ponder: In the USA, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the bill that outlawed several types of racial and gender discrimination, has only been in effect for 46 years. Now think about what that means in terms of the economic situations of black people in America. It's been, at most, a generation of black people being considered full citizens under the law. They, by and large, aren't on the same economic footing as the majority of people in America. So laws have been put in place to give a previously disadvantaged group more opportunities, hopefully on par with the individuals who are not disadvantaged.

By the strictest definition, equal opportunity is discrimination, in that it treats a certain group of people different than others. However, it is designed to correct for a previous injustice, and avoid creating an underclass based on something like race, disability, gender, sexual orientation, etc..

Remember, just because discrimination no longer exists doesn't mean that the effects of that discrimination don't linger on. The real question is if you should just let those effects linger on or if you should take responsibility and take steps to correct the imbalance.

Quote:Its bad because its a hiearchy of inferiority or superiority at the top business level. but at the layman level its pure communism. people rather higher lazy bums because it makes their business look "EQUAL"
1. Take an English class, read some more books, or please do not ingest LSD prior to posting, I shouldn't have to decipher that shit.

2. At the lower level jobs people are typically lazy because it's shit work and uninteresting. An engineer working on an interesting project is going to be more dedicated to completing his work to a high degree of quality as opposed to some security guard who's just there to babysit a specific area.

While equal opportunity programs do have their pitfalls (e.g. an average white guy losing out a position to some black guy of equal qualifications), they are necessary, because the income gap between different disadvantaged or formerly disadvantaged groups and those not disadvantaged would remain and even widen with said programs. And here's the thing, in order to be a "successful" member of this society, you have to have money. And the only way to get money is to be successful. It's a goddamn circular loop, and only a very few can break into the "success loop." Equal opportunity is a way to make the loop easier to get into.

Quote:I feel no Nationalism for stupid Country. I hope Poland comes and Conquers us.

Good, because nationalism is a rotten idea, as are all ideas like it. "If someone shares x, y, or z characteristics with me, then his interests are my interests and vice-versa, and we should work together to better our lots." One should judge people and ideas by their character as a person and their validity as solid ideas, respectively. Surface similarities banding people together leads to strength, but strength for the wrong reasons and without thought. A simple gang mentality.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - ~Mystery~ - 02-20-2011 11:33 AM

I don't care, its way more stable in hierarchy and fuck off about civil rights, people have the right to be racist.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - HeartofShadows - 02-20-2011 11:53 AM

Mystery has pretty much been a troll Eddy.

Nobody takes him seriously.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Bob Dole - 02-20-2011 12:00 PM

~Mystery~ Wrote:I don't care, its way more stable in hierarchy and fuck off about civil rights, people have the right to be racist.
Stable != better.

Stable often means that it's over-rigid and inhospitable to change. "This is the way we've always done it and the way we'll always do it." Even when something better comes along. An engineering analogy: A "stable" part may be strong, but it's brittle, it'll never be tough. When a big enough outside force comes around, it won't mold around the force and will snap and be completely destroyed.

And people do have the right to be racist, I never proposed taking that away from them. But I do have an issue with racists taking away the rights and opportunities of others. Because of things like that, we have to have equal opportunity to bring previously disadvantaged groups back to the level of everyone else.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - True Strasserist - 02-21-2011 03:12 PM

America is hardly a capitalist nation. It's more of a hybrid fascist-socialist nation with capitalistic elements. Hong Kong, the greatest nation on earth, is far closer to a Utopia, yet allows free-trade AND has a safety net and free healthcare. America spends too much on the wrong things.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Leon Kinotolian - 02-21-2011 03:42 PM

vitralizer Wrote:America spends too much on the wrong things.
Tell us something we don't know.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - HeartofShadows - 02-21-2011 04:32 PM

vitralizer Wrote:America is hardly a capitalist nation. It's more of a hybrid fascist-socialist nation with capitalistic elements. Hong Kong, the greatest nation on earth, is far closer to a Utopia, yet allows free-trade AND has a safety net and free healthcare. America spends too much on the wrong things.

Don't forget the corporatism.


Re: America is A Hypocritcial Shit of a Country - Rebelnerd - 02-23-2011 04:34 AM

vitralizer Wrote:America is hardly a capitalist nation. It's more of a hybrid fascist-socialist nation with capitalistic elements. Hong Kong, the greatest nation on earth, is far closer to a Utopia, yet allows free-trade AND has a safety net and free healthcare. America spends too much on the wrong things.

Hybrid fascist-socialist? What does that even mean? Sounds like it came off a tea party sign. And I don't know if I'd call Hong Kong the greatest nation on Earth. Most economists and political analysts say it's one of the Scandinavian countries, usually Norway or Sweden.