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  Fuck Edgenuity/E2020
Posted by: An_Angry_Bastard - Today 02:42 AM - Replies (1)

I am fully aware that it's risky to bash an online education program as my first post on a forum like this, but hear me out.
Edgenuity, or E2020 was assigned to me by my school so I can keep studying even though I'm out of school for a while (I really don't want to get into why). It fucking sucks. If you think that traditional schools brainwash you, you will be ASTOUNDED by how much a committee has fucked the courses. There's just so much bullshit, the questions are designed to trick you and not to test your understanding, the teachers are incompetent, and the courses are very narrow in their scope for any one subject.
I never thought I'd say this but I miss traditional school because at least there, when I tried and when my teacher gave a shit (a rare combination I admit), I would understand something and not just memorize shit for a test.
I understand why people like online classes. Don't get me wrong, the fact that I can test out of lessons before I take them has had me flying through shit at a rate I could never do in real life. But even stuff that interests me (english and history) are fucking awful in this program and I barely pay attention.
I don't claim to know how to make an individualized system that works for everyone. I don't even know how to fix edgenuity. I'm just pissed off at this stupid fucking setup, and I hope that seeing my pissed off rant might help some other people who don't like this class.

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  Students with disabilities in school
Posted by: kiskisbella - Yesterday 11:42 AM - Replies (3)

I'm writing a report on whether Australia can still be considered an egalitarian society, and the group I'm focusing on are people with disabilities. Thought this would be the best place to gather primary evidence from students. So if you're an Aussie and you have a disability, then step right up and tell me your stories about how the school you go to deals with your disability, both good and bad!

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  Where you can learn what school doesn't teach you
Posted by: Depression101 - Yesterday 05:32 AM - Replies (1)

I saw some threads here about places where you can learn for your high school exams without going through school. Well, if you're interested in directing and other stuff school doesn't teach you. Extra Credits made three videos on channels that basically cover these artistic things, and I'll add some extra one I know.

Mainly game design and some history: https://www.youtube.com/user/ExtraCreditz
Or, just watch this got a full list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjGTQrsUOKM

Movies, directing, edditing, writing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DMqrc2H...a46TGzZiFP
Or another full list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJRk8F7V...freload=10

General -- art, philosophy, literature, psychology, etc.: https://www.youtube.com/user/schooloflif.../playlists
Or a list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnVXMoCNPMg&t=16s

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  A good example
Posted by: the Analogist - 05-22-2017 02:32 PM - Replies (1)

I feel like this character displays a healthy emotional foundation




Watch on YouTube

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  The girl who used to be my fake friend tried to make me embarrass my art teacher
Posted by: Marlena403 - 05-20-2017 07:20 AM - Replies (1)

I was going to write about this two days ago, but my mum took my phone because hers wasn't charging.

Anyway, two days ago, a girl who used to be my fake friend when I was in Year 8 has been very rude to me. First, she and her friends brought me to C block. Then they banged on the door to C6 (The art room). The art teacher, who was the Head of Art came out and told them to be quiet and stop banging on the door. They did it again and my art teacher came out and asked us why we're in C block. I told her that those girls brought me there and I didn't know why. She then told us that she's going to C1 (Her room) and we can stay as long as we don't misbehave. The girl, who used to be my fake friend then told me to go to C1 and tell the teacher that I love her. I didn't know what to do, so I ran away.

The next day I told the art teacher that the girls wanted me to embarrass her. She told me not to do it.

What do I do the next time something like that happens?

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  Alliance for Self-Directed Education Membership & Forums are live!
Posted by: xcriteria - 05-19-2017 11:33 PM - Replies (2)

It's taken a long time, but the Alliance for Self-Directed Education (ASDE), launched by Peter Gray and others, has launched membership on their site, which includes forums and the opportunity to connect with others who are interested in things like unschooling, Sudbury/democratic schools, and activism around creating a movement to promote learning that is based on learner choice and interests.

If you want to get involved in the movement, you can sign up at https://www.self-directed.org/membership/

They ask for a financial contribution of some sort from members, but it's possible to bypass this if you aren't in a position to contribute.

I'm particularly interested in bridging the gap between the movement and growing practice of self-directed education, and the reality that many young people are stuck in school and want out.

The Alliance is a new organization, but I think it has great promise in being part of the change many of us have wanted to see for a long time.

Also anyone who's interested, feel free to PM me, I'd like to get more discussion going about this in a few places with those who are interested.

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  Abolish the Age of Consent
Posted by: TheVanishingSnowDove - 05-19-2017 07:49 AM - Replies (15)

http://www.revleft.com/vb/threads/16751-...-rid-of-it

Quote:My Views on Age of Consent

First of all, I should like to say that there is no topic too controversial about which to talk, because the controversial topics are always the most important ones. Second, there is no argument, no person, no idea, no law, no moral, no theory, no anything, which is above criticism, including this very post. And I choose to talk about a subject which is viewed by many to be "too controversial" to talk about. And I shall criticise a law and a moral position which many of its proponents seem to view as "above criticism". Just bear in mind that nothing is "too controversial" or "above criticism".

The difficulty about writing this was that throughout I had to argue against myself. Sometimes it is hard to think about all the good arguments against my own argument, and then refute those counter-arguments. The counter-arguments get progressively harder for me to refute. But I refute them nonetheless.

To proceed.

As always, I must firstly define the key term. The key term here is "Age of Consent". "Age of Consent" is that age at which an individual may legally experience sexual sensations with an adult, i.e., consent to sexual contact with an adult. Whatever age is decided as the "age of consent" is that age at which a person is said to be able to make an "informed decision".

There are several problems with "Age of Consent". To wit:

1. The problem of the "individual".

An individual is a person. Children are persons. An anatomically correct person can experience sexual sensations. Hence a child can experience sexual sensations. Sexual sensations are considered as pleasurable by the person experiencing them in the majority of instances. (There are some rare cases in which a person feels emotional pain seemingly as a result of sexual sensations. But this is more likely the result of aversive associations with sex - caused by perhaps a traumatic sexual experience, and not by the sexual sensations themselves.) Hence a child can derive pleasure from sexual sensations. If they do not appear as pleasurable, it is in fact other sensations which are confounded with the sexual sensation, such as the aversive feeling which is induced by unwanted force. Force is the undesirable sensation, and not sex itself. There is no sensible reason why the individual, which includes the child, must not experience pleasurable sensations that he is biologically capable of experiencing.

"It is harmful," the reader might respond. "Surely you agree that sex between a young person and an adult is harmful."

"Harm" includes emotional and physical harm. What type of harm is caused by sexual sensations? Obviously it is not physical harm, because people have sex all the time without experiencing physical harm. Physical harm may exist alongside sex, but it is not sex itself. Is it emotional harm, then? But in fact, it is contradictory that a sensation which is emotionally pleasurable can be emotionally harmful. And as I have shown above, sexual sensations are pleasurable sensations.

"But it causes delayed emotional harm," the reader will suggest. "It may not have caused harm when it happened, but in the future it is very likely to cause emotional harm."

This means that, after a person indulges in the sexual act, he might experience emotional harm in the future, perhaps as a fully developed adult, because he was "too young" when he engaged in that activity. There is no delayed emotional harm resulting from sex. There is simply no evidence that sex induces deferred emotional harm. It is always the use of force which is made use of alongside the sexual act which causes the delayed emotional harm - it is never sex itself. Force and sexual sensations are being confused. Sexual sensations, which are pleasurable, are, by the very definition of "pleasurable", not harmful. What might be harmful are acts which occur concombitantly with the sexual act, such as force, coercion, inter alia. The experience of sexual sensations, being a sensation of pleasure, is not itself harmful.

"But sex between one of non-consenting age and an adult is necessarily coercive," replies the reader. "Therefore, it is harmful - whether the harm be delayed or no."

This leads us to the second problem.

2. The problem of "consent".

Our reader seems to believe that children cannot consent. But children can consent. Consent consists merely of "I do", or "Yes." It is irrational to believe that children cannot "consent". It is clear that, in this sense, the child can consent to sex just as easily as anybody else can.

"Technically, yes, children can consent. But they can also consent to things which are harmful to them. Thus, they must informedly consent. The age of consent is the age at which one can make an informed decision. This is what we mean by age of consent."

Of course. But can an adult not consent to something which can harm him? Is he not capable of making an uninformed decision? Must the adult, therefore, be refused all sex, because it is possible he will make an uninformed decision?

"Of course adults can make uninformed decisions, but surely you cannot deny that there is a correlation between informedness and age. And the correlation is such that the adult is far more informed about decisions concerning sex than the child."

It has not been denied that there is a correlation between informedness and age. But what is the child not informed about - about which he needs to be informed - to be able properly to have sex? Why can he not be informed about this? Are his mental faculties really that defective?

"What is there in sex that he is not informed about that he needs to be informed about? Protection from sexually transmitted diseases. Rapists. Etc. Can a child be informed about these? No."

First: The sexually transmitted disease is not such a difficult concept to get one's mind round. In the Netherlands, for example, children as young as eleven are fully informed about this. It is purely an educational matter. What is more, the type of relationship about which we are speaking is not a one-sided one: the adult ought to use "protection" as well. Everyone on Earth can, and must, be informed about "protection". If the adult did not use "protection", would you say that he would not be informed, and therefore cannot consent to sex? By your own logic you must admit this. And what about before there was a significant problem with sexually transmitted diseases, hundreds of years ago? Or in some isolated culture, in which there is no history of sexually trasmitted diseases? The child would not need to be informed about STDs in such examples (even though, given education, he certainly can).

Third: As regards rape, is my informedness about it going to change anything? If someone is going to prey upon me in an alley, it makes no difference how "informed" I am about the concept of rape. The key is not how informed one is about the existence of rape (though that certainly is desirable&#33, but how to avoid dangerous situations. The child must therefore be carefully guarded by his parents. And he must be educated about, and thereby protected from, the dangers of the world, including rape, by his parents.

Second: I suspect that you are once again thinking about the "correlation between informedness and age". Sexually transmitted diseases aside, a child no more needs to be informed about sex to enjoy sex than he needs to be informed about poetry to enjoy poetry. For indulging in both is a pleasurable experience. It is not as if he will suddenly be harmed by poetry if he is not "informed" about rhythm, meter, the anapest, etc. And the same is true (perhaps truer) with music. Sex, like enjoying music, is a pleasurable sensation. There is no inherent harm with it, irrespective of the person's age who partakes in it. There is harm involved in force - and this must be stressed - but not sex itself.

Third: If there is not a particular age at which a person develops the informedness at which he can consent to sexual contact, then age of consent, whatever it may be, is arbitrary.

"And I have no problem with admitting that. But still, though I can admit that the age of consent is arbitrary, it is used to protect children who cannot defend themselves, who generally have not the informedness to consent, and is therefore laudable."

But what about "sex play" between two children? Do you disapprove of that as well? Is it harmful, too? The children are not "informed", even in such cases (what would they have to be informed about?); and by your reasoning it must be harmful, and punished severely.

"It is not harmful because an adult is not involved in it."

And thus we arrive at problem number three.

3. The problem of the "adult".

The adult is falsely defined as a lustful being with an obsession with sex, and will only get it by means of coercion and force. It is for this reason that all sex between adults and young persons is perceived as harmful, because the adult is coercive, etc. However, if this were the case, all sex between any adult would involve at the very least coercion. But this is not the case. In the majority of instances, sex does not involve coercion, but on the contrary involves "mutual consent".

"I cannot agree with that. But even if you are right, by engaging in the sexual act, the child loses thereby his innocence. That is wrong in itself, regardless of whether he 'feels' harm or not."

Thus do we get to the fourth problem.

4. The problem with "childhood innocence".

The principal defect of this concept is that it implies that sexuality is a "sin", and that children are "innocent" because they have not as yet indulged in this "sin". The singularly Christian notion of "childhood innocence" is a vestige of our anti-sexual heritage which reached a high point, in many aspects, in the Victorian era. Its origin can be traced to the 1700s. It is a highly irrational notion, and I need not attempt to refute it. For the burden of proof is not on the Author, that sexuality is a sin. I have yet to see an argument that sexuality is a sin, and hence have nothing to refute. I have only come across dogmatic assertions, mainly in the form of religion, of the sinfulness of sexuality and "childhood innocence" (which is implicit in the notion of the sinfulness of sexuality).

Such are my reasons for advocating the abolition of "Age of Consent".

Every instance of perceived emotional harm by sex, is not in fact emotional harm by sex, or the result of being "too young"; it is caused by force, by coercion, coupled with the sexual act. If there were no force, no coercion, I guarantee that there would not have been any harm whatsoever.

I therefore advocate strengthening rape laws, abolishing Age of Consent laws.

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  Should I Try to Start Highschool Early?
Posted by: Candy - 05-18-2017 06:59 AM - Replies (23)

Hello, I'm a student in a school that is thinking of starting high school early,if possible.Anyone know how I would achieves this?I have a passion for science. (And gaming)My grammar is pretty good.(Because of the Internet)My math skills are ok.
Still, I'm not sure if I should try to do a test or whatever for it.(Isn't it a test or something?)Note-This is my first threat post Biggrin

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  The horrors I underwent at school today.
Posted by: Depression101 - 05-17-2017 11:29 PM - Replies (59)

Before the site went down about a week ago I made a thread, but I think the restored version of the site was before that post, which was basically this thread here. So, what villainies were done to me today? Well, firstly it was French class, I died from fucking boredom. It was painful to just hear the teacher talk. Next, was history, we waited thirty minutes outside the class, waiting for the teacher who was out. Half the class was out for some fucking match and our history teacher told us we'll be watching but she forgot about us so we had to wait for another teacher to come and make us to questions. One fucking idiots said "Leonardo DiCaprio" instead of "DaVinci" and we all laughed until said teacher told us to shut up. Then the most boring fucking subject of all: CSPE(Civil, Social and Political "Education"). We were revising chapters on Human Rights. The page containing human rights was separate from the one containing children's right. So, out of boredom, I wrote on that page "Are children not humans?" And were it said "A right to education" I said "school does not equal education." And, at the bottom of the page, were the 25 rights are, I scribbled this: "26. Freedom?"

Then it was fucking maths. I didn't do my homework. And I had time to do it at break, but I said fuck. So the teacher gave me a notice, and fucking hovered over me half the class. Maths was hell. I planned on hiding in the fucking toilet and skipping class, but I think they call your parents and search the school if you skip class. Next, it English. English, in short, makes we want to be dead, it takes any joy in the day out for me. It made me not want to read or write; I used to love reading and writing, it used to be the world for me, now, thanks to school, it makes me disgusted.

Lastly, it was Science. We went to the computer room for science. There are two opposing rows of computers. When the teacher was checking on the one opposite me, I opened a new tab and went of School Survival. It was blocked. I was sad, but still bookmarked the search results. Then I wanted to see if the forums were blocked. Nope, just this site. So I browsed the forums when the teacher was far away and then bookmarked them on the computer. Then I deleted the links from the history and hoped someone would find the site and pass it on. But some teacher will probably find it, block the forums, and un-bookmark. It was a half-day so I was out after science. Today was one of the better days at school. Usually, they're a lot worse.

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  Unnecessary school subjects
Posted by: XregularC - 05-17-2017 08:20 AM - Replies (3)

Hello. Lately I've been very frustrated about how I have to learn subjects which I do not find useful nor interesting and that has gotten me thinking about how it's been affecting me through out all of the time I've spent at school. At primary school I never liked some of the subjects and as a result I weren't particularly good at them. I were told I should still learn them because I might change interest later and go for a job which requires an understanding for these subjects. At the time I accepted that as a good reason but ever since then, until recently(somewhat ironically), I were determined to become a game developer and since I had already made a decision for which career I'd have it made less sense I still had to go through with some of the subjects.

I'll soon have finished my second year of high school and I have recently realized I do not want to become a game developer but teacher. Still I intend on becoming a teacher for the subjects which I always found to be more interesting than the rest so even now a lot of the subjects I thought of as useless still seems useless to me. Am I wrong about that?

The only logical reason I see to learn these subjects is so that I can...
1. get a grade in all the subjects so that I can...
2. get into university so that I can...
3. become a teacher for the subjects I actually intend on educating.

If I am correct about this then all the stress, anxiety, depression and other mental issues I've accumulated for several years thanks to these subjects has been for no good reason at all! Please, tell me what you think about this.

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  What was your sex-ed experience?
Posted by: Depression101 - 05-17-2017 02:21 AM - Replies (16)

At my school they treated it like a fucking third world war. I mean, letters were send out home and parents had to agree that their kids be taught about sex. What the fuck? Is it just me, or is that an over-reaction. And thank God every parent signed it or some kids would be up for a rough time in adult-hood. Anyway, so it was this big deal, the kids spoke about it in hushed whispers -- we all knew what sex was, and the teachers looked gloomy as hell. You could have assumed they were all about to tell us we were adopted. Jesus Christ, is it just me, or did they just make a big deal out of nothing. All the kids knew what sex was, for fucks sake, and there's nothing wrong with it. So, anyhow, the day comes and one kid asks if todays sex-ed. The whole class freezes, acts as if that kids just told the teacher go suck a mammoth's dick. The teacher told us 'yes', and not to talk about it until it's time. Then, after lunch, we all lined up and were escorted to another room where the other half the our year-group were waiting.

We sat down, and this teacher that was teaching it, a man, thankfully, said that we are not allowed to laugh or snicker during the video he was about to show. So, he said it was to get the laughs out of our system, and started yelling "SEX!" from out the top of his lungs, and he screamed: "IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A VAGINA IS, DON'T WORRY: YOU'RE GONNA GET INTO IT. HAHAHA!" I shit you not, that's what happened. Everybody exploded laughing; I laughed too, but I was afraid of the teacher, he seemed like a maniac.

And then we saw this corny video about how girls get pregtant and all, and about how hormones effect us at this age. Then the lunatic teacher got up and started talking about how sacred sex is and how we shouldn't fuck around, and all. But the most offensive thing, I think, is that they never mentioned condoms or safe sex. No one on this fucking earth is only going to have sex to have babies, and they fucking knew that. Yet they never mentioned safe sex, STDs, and the important shit. It was a fucking overview of erections, hormones and pregnancies. Nothing too important. It was a horrible system. They sugarcoated all of it, treated us like idiots, babies. How bad was your sex-ed class?

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  My Pastoral Leader is rude
Posted by: Marlena403 - 05-16-2017 09:12 AM - Replies (11)

Today, when I was doing my work, my stupid, good for nothing Pastoral Leader showed me how horrible she can be. When I was doing my overdue English homework, I was adding something. She said that I was drawing a teacher when I wasn't. She said that only so that she can be rude to me later. She then told me to get off the computer and go to another seat. I thought she was yelling at me either because I misbehaved in English today or because I was flirting with my art teacher last Thursday. She said something about the bus and about Last Friday. I thought she would tell me off for telling other students that I love my art teacher, so I didn't want to talk to her. However, she threatened me with exclusion. I didn't even want to know what she was talking about until she told me to write an apology letter to my English teacher. My Pastoral Leader then said that I called her dirty and I called her a liar on the bus. Yes, I did call my English teacher a liar, but I didn't call her dirty. I said that West Side First Floor of A block is dirty, not my English teacher. And why can't I call her a liar when that's exactly what she is?! First, she lied to my mother about a boy getting punished for pushing me in the corridor when he actually got away with it, then she lied to the Head of English about my homework, and then she lied to me about my answer to her question. Who else will she lie to? What else will she lie about? When will she lie again? Those three times she lied prove that she is a liar. My Pastoral Leader then said that I'm lying to her. She continued yelling at me.

I hope that rubbish Pastoral Leader gets fired!

How can I deal with her?

Yes, I know I've been bad, but that doesn't give her the right to treat me like dirt all the time. And exclusion for just calling my English teacher a liar and for not wanting to talk to my Pastoral Leader is just dumb.

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  I'm almost done...I'm gonna be a senior!
Posted by: kokoroki - 05-15-2017 08:05 AM - Replies (32)

Hello all. I'm going to be FREE soon! Next year is my last year!
I have 2 weeks of school left in this school year and I'm officially going to become a senior this upcoming thursday. I never thought I could make it this far...but knowing that I only have one more school year left feels so good. Soon I get to be free from this terrible system and get to start my own life!!
Just ONE more year...it's so exciting.

I just had to vent. Knowing that this next year will be your last one...It makes things seem so much more tolerable.

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  What are the Conditions of your School? (Part 2)
Posted by: Benjavaz - 05-14-2017 07:21 AM - Replies (25)

(05-14-2017 07:19 AM)Depression101 Wrote:  You have vents? Lucky.
Yeah, but they are never cleaned, so I wish that I didn't have them.

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  What are the Conditions of your School?
Posted by: Benjavaz - 05-14-2017 12:00 AM - Replies (28)

What are the conditions of your school?

For me the conditions of my school are that the floors, the walls, and the uncomfortable chairs are covered in mold, sediment, and purple glitter. The canteen has disgusting tables and these blue things that they call "chairs". Puke

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  My Fucking Awful Days at School
Posted by: Benjavaz - 05-13-2017 04:08 AM - Replies (20)

I go to a place called public school. In this place, you are yelled at, disrespected by teachers and administrators, and indoctrinated. You quickly lose interest in every single thing that you love learning. These are my days at school. This is (unless I can find a way out) my 6 year sentence.

So when I leave for school at 8:30, I usually feel like shit. I walk up to the building, which looks like a county jail. Everyone is forced to walk in through the canteen, which usually smells awful. Then you go to your first class, and sit in your assigned, very uncomfortable, usually filthy, blue chair. The floors are covered in mold, sediment, and purple glitter. The entire complex smells awful, but not as bad as the canteen. So i'm in math class, where I'm forced to do these packets. I stay there for 1 hour and 10 minutes, closely monitored and not allowed to leave. Then we have to move through a crowded, bug infested, concrete hallway as we move to the next class. My next class is history class. The floors are not maintained and the classroom has had bugs and rats in it. We usually get a packet and are told to shut the fuck up. I usually just draw things on the back instead of doing the packet. We are released from that class as I dread going to the next class. The next class is the most awful class of the day. I have this horrible, horrible science teacher. She always does this count down from 10 to 1. She's always ranting about how badly behaved we are. We are forced to write things in our notebook. She even threatened us with failing the grade if we didn't do one of the packets. The floor always has gum stuck to it. It's a place that I wouldn't even send my worst enemy to. Then we get all of our stuff and move to the next class. We move to this class before lunch an 10 minutes of rec. The canteen is an awful, awful place. I've stopped eating my lunch there, because of how horrible it is. You don't get to leave those horrible blue things unless you ask permission. I'm forced to be there for 20 minutes, before we are all herded outside. We only get 10 minutes of fresh air, and we are being screamed at to walk around the track. After the 10 minutes, we all go back to the classroom. We then have English class, notorious for ruining reading and writing for people. We do different horrible things there, so I'm glad when the clock reaches 2:03 and we move to the next class. This next class is on the second floor. This class is called theater class, and we get a lot of freedom in this class. It's the least horrible class. After that class, I move to the gym and have to change in a filthy locker room and put our backpack near a drain. This is a problem because of the drain,but nothing bad has happened yet. I then go to a filthy gymnasium where I get yelled at and brainwashed. After that, at 3:45, the day ends.

I leave the school and hope to die so that I never have to go back to school. I don't wish this situation on anyone, not even a murderer. I can't stand going there. That place causes me to be miserable every day, even on weekends. it's almost 8 hours each day. This is why I would rather die than go to school for the next 6 years.

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  An interesting youth rights supporter's view on "development"
Posted by: TheVanishingSnowDove - 05-08-2017 02:12 PM - Replies (3)

A reply to this: http://www.youthrights.org/blog/yr101-2/
I like that this person acknowledges that, along with teens, younger children are also not deserving of invalidation and inferior treatment by adults, and are more capable than we think- even at 7 years old.

Quote:A few reactions:

1. Speaking of ‘developmental differences’ between adults and children is itself problematic in that different children have different capacities at different ages, some of whom exceed the capacities of many or most adults in precisely those areas where adults are said to be more capable.
2. The term “development” must itself be politicized and problematized. It is used as a cudgel to reject demands for children’s rights. Any differences between most children and most adults are viewed as examples of children’s underdevelopment, or adults greater development. The view implied by adopting the language of “development” is that children develop to a higher level once adults, that adults are developed, children, developing. This does not square with the reality however: was inherently imperfect as so-called intelligence tests are, they demonstrate that many areas of human mental capability actually peak in early youth: adults aren’t ‘more developed’, we are all in decline in these measures.
3.Who are these “many” for whom youth rights primarily on teenagers? This implies that there is some large contingent of people who adopt this view, within youth rights. I have not really seen any evidence of that.
4. Only amongst children is lack of capability or capacity thought to logically reduce the ability to refuse intervention and control of others. I am unable to fly a plane competently and as such I should not be licensed to do so, but my lack of flying capability or flying development does not imply that those who can fly planes may abduct me and fly me to locations against my will. This is however exactly what we are asked to believe with children. If we accept that say, a particular 7 year old child is not competent to live on her own (and we might legitimately question if a properly educated 7 year old couldn’t live on her own in reality, if education to do so was provided, if maybe a weekly cleaner or something was provided, if the proper adjustments were made, such as counter heights within her easy reach – the type of adjustments that are necessary for people with certain sorts of disabilities for example.) it does not follow that she shouldn’t be able to choose who she lives with (providing they consent), or that she shouldn’t be able to set her own bed time, to decide what books she reads and what television programs she watches, to decide how much time she spends on the internet, whether she attends church and if so which one, and so forth. Even if a care taker was absolutely necessary (as it very much may be before 4 years old for example) there is no reason why that care taker should have ultimate sovereignty over that child anymore than the caretakers many elderly people rely on are granted powers of them. The differences in development are trotted out as a trump card against those who would liberate children from their current thoroughly dominated status. But this makes no sense.

5. To the extent that relevant developmental differences (that are not accounted for by lack of education that could be provided for example), they should motivate us to adjust public space and social expectations in such a way that accommodates children’s differences, in the same way that we do for disabled people, rather than using it as an excuse to justify continued domination of children.

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  What's the stupidest rule at your school?
Posted by: Depression101 - 05-08-2017 01:10 AM - Replies (36)

There are hundreds at my school, but one of the lesser ones I can remember is we have to wear shitty school jackets that cost a fucking fortune and look like shit. They look thick and lined with this nice, soft wool or something, but they're hollow as fuck and do jack shit in protecting you from the cold. And we have to wear them during the summer, winter and every other season. One kid got in trouble for not coming to school in his jacket. You literally have to have it on at all if you're walking to or from school, because if they see you without it, you're fucked.

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  School meddling in internet use hits a new low
Posted by: vonunov - 05-07-2017 11:41 PM - Replies (3)

http://www.fox19.com/story/35355907/midd...-instagram

( http://archive.fo/Yx6eG )

Quote:“Yesterday evening school officials were made aware to an alleged threat of a student bringing a gun to school. We act on any potential threat to student safety swiftly and with the utmost importance. This morning, the alleged threat was addressed and we can assure you that all students at Edgewood Middle School are safe and school will continue as normal. Thank you”

People are getting real loose with the word "threat" lately.

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  Fuck this shit, and fuck school and fuck everything.
Posted by: Depression101 - 05-07-2017 01:35 AM - Replies (29)

Well, you know what? Fuck this shit. I'm tired of school and all it's fucking bullshit, and I'm tired of it destroying what I love. You know, what I started writing a short story about how school destroyed my love for writing and reading to calm myself down and put my thoughts down; but as my previous statement suggests, that didn't work out. So I was thinking, should I jump out the fucking window, headfirst, and write a note saying how school drove me to suicide. But to prevent some people thinking I'm some edgy teen who doesn't have a right to be fucking depressed because he's from a loving family and a good "education", maybe I should make some stuff up that'll hopefully have some affect on the school and maybe get my English teacher fired, if not, hopefully, arrested.


I just had enough of all this motherfucking cocksucking shit. My philosophy is that dead men don't care about anything anymore, that they have absolutely no problems, because, well, they're fucking dead. Maybe I'm being dramatic, but fuck this SHIT. I Wwon't handle monday, I just fucking won't.

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