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To everyone who joined these forums at some point, and got discouraged by the negativity and left after a while (or even got literally scared off): I'm sorry.

I wasn't good enough at encouraging people to be kinder, and removing people who refuse to be kind. Encouraging people is hard, and removing people creates conflict, and I hate conflict... so that's why I wasn't better at it.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. The atmosphere of this forum as it is now, if it had existed in 1996, would probably have upset me far more than it would have helped.

I can handle quite a lot of negativity and even abuse now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and I want to help people like the 1996 version of me.

I'm still figuring out the best way to do that, but as it is now, these forums are doing more harm than good, and I can't keep running them.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people.

Everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future it might make sense, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me, and those who need help.

-SoulRiser


Forum Announcement: What's going on with School Survival at the moment
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What's going on with School Survival at the moment

Hi. SoulRiser here. I'm sure you've noticed there's some conflict going on at the moment. There also seems to be a lot of confusion about who did what and for what reason, so in this announcement I will try to explain what's really going on.

The first 'trigger' for this was when Hansgrohe, ex-moderator, deleted some threads. I saw this in the logs and PM'd him about it. He didn't reply, but at least I didn't see him deleting any more threads.

This is the PM I sent:

16 May:
Hey, in the logs it says you deleted several threads in more than one forum.

Please don't delete entire threads - rather move them somewhere else, and if they're really shit, to the Frag Arena. I don't like it when things disappear and I don't even know what they were.


Later, TheVanishingSnowDove apparently did some trolling on the SS Discord, and a couple of people wanted me to ban or punish her on the forums as a result. I didn't want to (I still, to this day, have never even joined the SS Discord - it was made by some of the members, not me). Hansgrohe made a poll thread asking people to vote on whether or not she should be banned. I had already decided not to ban her (because it had nothing to do with the forums), and I'm pretty sure he knew this, but he made the poll anyway, because apparently I'm just the admin and my opinions don't matter at all. The title of his poll thread was "Should we ban TheVanishingSnowFaggot". I hid the thread as soon as I saw it because I thought that was just a pretty awful way to treat someone in general, especially someone who technically hadn't even done anything wrong on the actual forums.

So I sent him a PM:
25 May:
I don't know what you're deleting, and now you're making polls about banning people. This is too much. I feel safer without you being a mod for now. I've demodded you.


He didn't reply to that either. He left SS for a few weeks, and then came back and made several big public threads complaining about me demodding him, as well as me not wanting to ban SnowDove. Because everything I said had been in private, and everything he said was public, nobody knew my side of the story, and very few seemed interested in finding out. It felt like he was trying to turn people against me on purpose. If that was the goal, he succeeded.

I've been dreading checking the latest posts on SS for a while, even before all this. It stresses me out, makes me angry, or depressed. If anyone doesn't like anything, it's always my fault somehow. I feel like no matter what I do or don't do, it will never be good enough. I'm like the kid whose parents always expect the impossible and are always disappointed no matter what.

So I wanted to quit. Again - wouldn't be the first time. But I was talking to SteveHein, and, long story short, he suggested that I take a break and said he feels confident he can make SS a better place. I trust him. He's a good person, he cares more deeply than pretty much anyone else I know. I haven't always agreed with everything he does, but I know for a fact that I can always talk to him about any issues, and we can sort it out, like decent civilized people. I want to work with more people like him on SS.

I can't be the admin of a forum where 90% of the people don't take me seriously or even give a flying fuck how I feel about things. When I started the forums I had no real vision for what I wanted, but in 2006-2007 it was full of supportive people and it was an epically brilliant supportive community. It was small, sure, but it was amazing. I miss those years. It has never been quite the same since. I'm not entirely sure what happened. I guess new people joined, and old people left, and the atmosphere changed over time, very gradually. Too gradually to really notice where it even went wrong.

How many of you were here in 2006? That was the best year on these forums. The first half or so of 2007 was pretty good as well. If you enjoyed other eras more, great, good for you. "SS used to be..." you can put a lot of different things at the end of that and they will all be true. SS is a lot of different things to different people. For a few short years it was a pretty awesome place for me. For most of the rest of the time it's been a pain in the ass for me.

I want to help people. That's all I want. If there are people on SS that are literally scaring away new people, that's interfering with the idea of helping people. Maybe the forums aren't the best place to be helping people. Maybe it should just be for fucking around like it's been for a while now. I don't know. All I know is I'm not interested in running a forum just for fucking around. If I'm going to spend time on this, it has to be helping people.

I was a very, very sensitive teen. I would not have lasted a day on this forum if I had joined it back in 1997, if it had existed back then. I can handle quite a lot of shit now, but that isn't the point. I want to help people. I want to help the people who need it the most, and people who want mainly entertainment from this forum don't really need it that badly. I want to help people like me. People like me are fucking rare, this I know, but those are the ones I want to help the most.

I'm not entirely sure what's the best way to do that yet. But things have to change around here, that's for sure.

Thank you to the few people who have tried to understand my point of view so far. I really, really appreciate you guys. You are beautiful people. Hug

To everyone else: If after everything I've said so far, you still don't understand my motivations, I think it's unlikely that you will. We're just too different. Maybe someday in the future you might figure it out, but until then, there's no point in arguing about it. I don't have the time or the energy for arguing anymore. I will focus my time and energy on people who support me.
06-26-2017 08:15 AM
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